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The word that I've come across is that...

Cody removed the file from the site himself when confronted by .gov and is attempting to come to an agreement with them. He mentioned it in an interview today as well.

The file has been downloaded over 100,000 times and is still up in a lot of places where it's been reposted. I was able to find it in only a few minutes search.

Pretty much this. I found a link to the download for the Liberator pistol in an article on Google News. I'm sure I can find the other files fairly easily too. It's gonna be hard to unring this bell.
 
lol...silly government...it's on the interwebz now...you're not stopping a darn thing. This will only make countless others download the file "just because"... Oh you antis...bless your retarded hearts.

Edit: Just to prove my point...I downloaded the files just now...it took all of 15 seconds to find them with a google search. Anybody want the link? lol

If so, click ==>HERE

The zip file has all 16 parts...
 
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^ that link doesn't work.

And yes, I am one of the people who will download the files just because the gubernmint has tried to make it hard for me to do so. Otherwise I have no real use for them.
 
^ that link doesn't work.

And yes, I am one of the people who will download the files just because the gubernmint has tried to make it hard for me to do so. Otherwise I have no real use for them.
Link should work now...Click link and then download the zip file.
 
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yep, link confirmed working. that's the same file that I found linked in an article earlier. Sometime this weekend I'll look for the AR 15 and magazine files as well. I'll put the over/under on the time it takes me to find copies of those files at 10 minutes, and I'll take the under.
 
701 seeds, + me... Yep, they sure did a good job keeping us safe by killing circulation of those dangerous weapons! I feel safer already.
 
I don't know if any of you guys are UFC fans, but about a year ago UFC president Dana White was complaining that people were illegally streaming/downloading UFC pay per views. As he is saying this the color commentator (Joe Rogan) says "you can't stop the internet". I think that definitely applies here. Those files are out there and there is no way to stop them now!
 
Thank you X-JaVen-X! I had trouble from spam on the PirateX site, but the Dropbox works great. They'll get my DD plans when they pry them from my cold dead computer...and my USB drives...and my plug-in hard drives...and the DVD's I made.
 
It's gonna be hard to unring this bell.
Cody has accomplished his goal in absolute entirety. I know that he never wanted his efforts yanked like this, but his end goal was to ring this bell, and he did. It is out and it ain't going back in.

Despite that a lot of 2A supporters are looking at this new development as a failure or a defeat, this is a total success. The accomplishment was reached.
 
he probably did violate ITAR
He doesn't think so:
In response, Cody decided to comply with the government’s request. For now. But as he noted when we talked, this isn’t the end of the road. The government has provided a period of time for Defense Distributed to reply and prove that their actions were lawful. And according to Cody, he thinks he has this rap beat. Apparently there’s an exemption from the ITAR regulations for non-profit organizations working in the public domain, which is exactly what they are doing.

Source.
 
I win!

yep, link confirmed working. that's the same file that I found linked in an article earlier. Sometime this weekend I'll look for the AR 15 and magazine files as well. I'll put the over/under on the time it takes me to find copies of those files at 10 minutes, and I'll take the under.

LOL thanks Smatek. I didn't even have to search...so I guess I win the bet against myself that I could find it in under 10 minutes. Does 0 minutes count? And who pays me the bet that I won? :D
 
Apparently there’s an exemption from the ITAR regulations for non-profit organizations working in the public domain
No way. There's no way the ITAR law would be crafted with an exemption that would allow United Way to freely distribute nuke secrets to the Russians :D :D :D

I heard Cody applied (and was denied) for an FFL recently, but now he's trying to be a non-profit? Has he applied (and received) IRS status to that effect? Seems contradictory. I sure hope the Feds don't go after him (I think they'd have a tough sell considering how accommodating he has been with there requests) but I think they may have a point here that he could have violated arms control laws.

The real question is; "is the 150+ year old technology of a squeeze-cocker really a military trade secret that requires Federal oversight?"

Anyone who took Material Science or can read Wikipedia can figure out the numbers to build a low-power plastic pistol--just like Cody (or his engineer friend) has. None of the technologies used to build the thing are secret, nor is the combination of them particularly "novel." It's just that nobody has bothered to do the legwork required to build a working gun through this (for the immediate future) impractical means.

TCB
 
I downloaded those files too! I did it just because I knew they would try to remove them at some point. My friend has a 3D printer and we tried printing the magazines. It didn't wok for the desktop printers. But still pretty cool. We got the 10rd magazine to work though.
 
No way. There's no way the ITAR law would be crafted with an exemption that would allow United Way to freely distribute nuke secrets to the Russians :D :D :D

I heard Cody applied (and was denied) for an FFL recently, but now he's trying to be a non-profit? Has he applied (and received) IRS status to that effect? Seems contradictory. I sure hope the Feds don't go after him (I think they'd have a tough sell considering how accommodating he has been with there requests) but I think they may have a point here that he could have violated arms control laws.

The real question is; "is the 150+ year old technology of a squeeze-cocker really a military trade secret that requires Federal oversight?"

Anyone who took Material Science or can read Wikipedia can figure out the numbers to build a low-power plastic pistol--just like Cody (or his engineer friend) has. None of the technologies used to build the thing are secret, nor is the combination of them particularly "novel." It's just that nobody has bothered to do the legwork required to build a working gun through this (for the immediate future) impractical means.

TCB
This. As an engineer, you learn all sorts of things that can either work to further mankind or for nefarious ends. As far as I know, there are no legal restrictions on obtaining a degree in engineering. To do defense work you'll need a clearance. Which is amusing. We let all kinds of foreigners into our colleges, engineering is particularly affected. They learn the same things those guys with clearances learned.

What I'm saying is that secrets are futile as long as our educational institutions create a leak. Once a discovery or invention is made, it's a matter of time before it's gotten out. People have a way of figuring things out.
 
This is a violation of the first amendment of the constitution. This information is made available freely. The company is not breaking any laws and they are not distributing the actual firearm without a license. What a bunch of garbage. I am glad I have my digital copy of the Liberator already. Def Cad also made available plans for AR lowers, mags and a .22 cal suppressor. I have added the information to other information I collect including my digital copies of The Anarchist Cookbook and the Patriot Act (it is a violation of the Patriot Act for the American public to know what is in it, or at least it was). Information of all types should be available to everyone...period. Government is about control. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional or running for office. We will see this again in a court case. Mark my words it will happen.
 
I read the country with the most of the downloads was Spain.
A wise people who remember their recent history, and understand the struggles ahead of their nation in the years to come. If Greeks were smart they'd be doing the same.

I heard Germany, Britain, and Brazil were also heavy users :neener:. I'm guessing the US, Switzerland, and Somalia :)rolleyes:) had the fewest downloads per capita :D

TCB
 
A deadly weapon that current detection protocols won't detect? Yeah, no threat THERE! :banghead:
Sorry to bust your bubble, but there are plenty of weapons one could smuggle aboard planes that are every bit effective as a one shot derringer, and are even more undetectable due the fact that they don't require a metal rod (nail) and metallic cartridge to work.

The plastic pistol is interesting from a gun control standpoint, in that it is the equivalent of the one shot "Liberator" of WWII fame, and could be made by anyone with access to the proper 3D printer. I remember when the Glock first came out and everyone freaked out about plastic guns, including gun owners and so-called gun "experts", who should of known better.

At the current time, the concept is a toy, as the proper 3D printers are few and far between. In the future, I can see a high tech, totalitarian ruled Nation being very nervous what comes off of an automated assembly line after the workers and guards go home.:evil:
 
Imagine the confused consternation of the Founding Fathers if we could tell them an American citizen was in trouble for publishing schematics of a single shot pistol...

JAMES: "They're trying to control the making of arms!?"

BEN: "And the free use of the printing press!"

TOM: "We need to clarify such things in written law! Some sort of list of rights, a 'bill of rights', if ye will..."
 
I would like to complete the set...

In the vain of this thread, can anyone provide a link to a downloadable 3D program for the “600+” AR-15 lower?

Thanks... Frankie
 
Imagine the confused consternation of the Founding Fathers if we could tell them an American citizen was in trouble for publishing schematics of a single shot pistol...

James: "Oh my Lord, Airplanes!" :eek:
Tom: "Oh my Lord, Computers!" :what:
Ben: "Praise the Lord, unattached women!" :cool:

TCB
 
A plastic pistol is far more suited to using compressed gas and longer projectiles.

Then it would really be undetectable by metal detectors (carbon fiber gas cannister, plastic arrow/spear).

It's not like you couldn't make a dive style spear gun out of all plastic.

This little stunt is entertaining, the .gov response is equally entertaining. Security theater at it's best.
 
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