Democrats: Why we cannot trust them with national security

[Helmetcase]

Yeah, because if Ann Coulter says the sky is blue, you better open a window and check to make sure it hasn't been painted red. I wouldn't trust her to start with the letter "A". Some more reading on her BS.

http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20020713.html
http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20030630.html

 

[Alex45ACP]

Ann Coulter proves that with a pretty face, you can get away with saying just about anything.

Ann Coulter is fugly.

 

[Helmetcase]

Eh, just cause she's got an adam's apple and fingers like the bad guys from Independence Day the movie...her face is still good. But she has that "thousand yard stare" thing going on, it's a little spooky.

Actually what's spooky is that both she and some of the people here actually believe what she's selling.

 

[Biker]

Ann Coulter is fugly.

Yup. I thought I saw her as an extra in the new Dawn of the Dead.
I'm sayin' that she could make a freight train take a dirt road. I'm tellin' ya that she has to sneak up on a glass of water.
I'm here to tell ya that I've stepped over better stuff than that on my way to...never mind.
Biker

 

[pax]

Coulter's face isn't the issue here.

No I would not, the reason is I believe that Hilliary would use/abuse NSA to protect her Herself (like her husband did) and /or as weapon to gain political advantage against her "domestic" political opponents (like Nixion did)

Something that the evidence appears to show President Bush hasn't done, so far.

Yep, you're right. So far Bush appears to have been pretty much a good guy.

SO WHAT???

Sorry for yelling, but no one is listening and it's getting wearisome ... and frightening.

The issue isn't whether George Bush is a good guy or a bad one. The issue is whether we want our President -- any President, including the ones we don't like who will be in office in the future -- to have the unilateral ability to order wiretaps on US citizens, without so much as a rubber-stamped, after the fact warrant.

You say President Bush is a good guy. Fine, but ...

He ain't going to be in office forever. Doesn't anyone get that?!?

Every power Bush grabs for the Presidency while he is in office, will carry over to the next President. Every single precedent he sets will be followed (and pushed and expanded) by the next inhabitant of the Oval Office.

You don't want President Hillary to have that much power? Excellent. Know how to keep it away from her? Don't give it to President Bush.

That is all.

pax

Concentrated political power is the most dangerous thing on earth. -- Rudolph Rummel

 

[Ryder]

It doesn't make the FISA court look very unreasonable.

Sleeping in the same bed is one possibility. Another is that the administration has been very selective in submitting these warrants and is doing so with good cause. Doesn't necessarily have to be one or the other, could be a combination. I'd be interested to hear what that one judge who quit over this has to say. Has he talked yet?

I've been holding my breath waiting to hear evidence of how this "illegal activity" harmed or was even targeted at any innocent people. Turning blue here. So far it sounds like they've done some very good things for us. I for one appreciate that and it could bias my opiniion on the preceding paragraph.

Ann takes no prisoners. I like that about her.

 

[yucaipa]

Coulter's face isn't the issue here.


Yep, you're right. So far Bush appears to have been pretty much a good guy.

SO WHAT???

Sorry for yelling, but no one is listening and it's getting wearisome ... and frightening.

The issue isn't whether George Bush is a good guy or a bad one. The issue is whether we want our President -- any President, including the ones we don't like who will be in office in the future -- to have the unilateral ability to order wiretaps on US citizens, without so much as a rubber-stamped, after the fact warrant.

You say President Bush is a good guy. Fine, but ...

He ain't going to be in office forever. Doesn't anyone get that?!?

Every power Bush grabs for the Presidency while he is in office, will carry over to the next President. Every single precedent he sets will be followed (and pushed and expanded) by the next inhabitant of the Oval Office.

You don't want President Hillary to have that much power? Excellent. Know how to keep it away from her? Don't give it to President Bush.

That is all.

pax

Concentrated political power is the most dangerous thing on earth. -- Rudolph Rummel

1 I'm not defending Bush

2 I get it

3 I trust Bush more than Hilliary "on this issue" that's all I said.

 

[Phyphor]

Yup. I thought I saw her as an extra in the new Dawn of the Dead.
I'm sayin' that she could make a freight train take a dirt road. I'm tellin' ya that she has to sneak up on a glass of water.
I'm here to tell ya that I've stepped over better stuff than that on my way to...never mind.
Biker

HA!

She makes Right guard turn left.
She makes Old Spice find the fountain of youth.
She makes Sure apprehensive

 

[Ryder]

Pax,

If there is harm there should be consequences. If the next president becomes a bad actor then he will be treated accordingly. Why wouldn't he?

Punish people for something that somebody else might do? That's what some places in this country do now to honest gun owners. It isn't right.

We think oversight is good. The President doesn't agree. That is an issue but I don't see it as criminal without injured parties. That's so what.

I wonder if this could change his mind about all these victimless crime laws he presides over?

 

[Preacherman]

Coulter's face isn't the issue here.

When a moderator speaks like this, we do expect folks to listen.

It seems some are deaf.

Closed.