Did Ted Nugent cross the line?

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Ted has always been a good advocate of 2nd Amendment rights but he is goofy. I don't know if they his story is true but if it is he might have gone off the deep end. A couple of news outlets have posted it so it likely is true.





http://time.com/4213198/ted-nugent-anti-semitic-facebook-gun-control/






Ted Nugent Posts Anti-Semitic Facebook Message About Gun Control



Rock musician Ted Nugent posted a message about “who is really behind gun control” on Facebook that the Anti-Defamation League slammed as anti-Semitic.

In the post, Nugent shares a grid of photos of Jewish legislators and leaders who support gun control, labeling each photo with Israeli flags and descriptions like “Jew York City mayor Mikey Bloomberg” and, under a photo of the late New Jersey Sen. Frank Lautenberg, “Gave Russian Jew immigrants your tax money.”
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Would not surprise me in the least.

Uncle Teddy has gone off the rails so many times I doubt anyone pays much attention to him or what he says anymore.

I actually thought long ago the NRA was playing with fire using him as a spokesman for gun rights.

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I have no idea if it is true or not, but I have never really trusted that guy. Anyone who got their access thru entertainment should be given extreme caution. If I want to know something about guitars or rock bands, maybe he would be one to listen too. When it comes to issues around the constitution I will go elsewhere. Not a lot different than one of the wacky actors talking about politics, environment, etc.
 
Nugent crossed the line a long time ago and shows no sign of changing course.
 
Yes, he's WAY over the line. It's inaccurate, follows classic anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, is unhelpful to any ongoing Second Amendment issues, and in fact plays into the Anti agenda (who want fence-sitters to think that gun owners are just a bunch of hateful reactionaries).

Bias disclaimer: I'm Jewish.
 
Did Nugent try to leave the impression Jews in general were behind gun control or specific Jews? Were any of his facts incorrect?

I am about as pro-Israeli, pro-Jew as you can get, but I can certainly list some very anti-gun Jews. I hope that doesn't make me anti-semitic.
 
I always thought he was a bit eccentric, but now I just think he's a complete <removed>.
 
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Nugent apparently did not create the photo grid himself—the ADL says it has appeared elsewhere in the past—but he wrote a message accompanying it saying, “Know these punks. They hate freedom, they hate good over evil, they would deny us the basic human right to self defense & to KEEP & BEAR ARMS while many of them have tax paid hired ARMED security!”
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This is an example of classic smear tactics. Time wants to blame the man for something he did not do. Nugent was only giving his opinion of the people mentioned in the photo grid that someone else put together.

The only thing Nugent did wrong was act like a political novice.
 
Ted, put the brontosaurus burger down and slowly back away from the keyboard
 
I'm not Jewish, but I can name an awful lot of big city mayors, politicians, and rich fat cats who are.
That would dearly love to take every gun in America away from us if they could.
And put their money & political power behind it to do it!

On the other hand, this is one of the most 2A friendly groups there are in the USA.
And they realize why too.

http://jpfo.org

The thing I can't figure out is, after what took place in WWII, and is still taking place in the middle-east?

Why any Jewish person in the world would think a disarmed population of any religion or race would be a good idea??

(Unless of course you have enough money to keep your own private armed army on the payroll?)

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Folks,

Let's stick to just the direct 2A stuff. This isn't a pile on Nugent thread where everything is fair game.
 
I think he does what he can to try and stay relevant or at minimum still talked about. No matter how outlandish. Most 'normal' pro 2A people I know think the guy acts like a clown to get press. I know he does good for returning vets, for that reason alone I give him a little respect. I do not want him as my voice to the already biased anti's.
 
I'm not Jewish, but I can name an awful lot of big city mayors, politicians, and rich fat cats who are.
That would dearly love to take every gun in America away from us if they could.
And put their money & political power behind it to do it!

On the other hand, this is one of the most 2A friendly groups there are in the USA.
And they realize why too.

http://jpfo.org
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+1. It's not 'unfair' that he has singled out jewish would-be tyrants for his remarks, but it is stupid and short-sighted. The folks on that grid or whatever (haven't looked at it, but I can guess who the 'usual suspects' are since there are a good number of them) are hardly the entire 'cabal' or whatever the conspiracy theorists call them, and focusing on only those anti-gunners of the Jewish faith misses some very big contributors to the anti cause.

There's a whole lot of Catholics, protestants (especially Methodists & other progressive-aligned churches who have clear policies favoring the anti-gunners), State supremacists, and other assorted faiths all stand united behind the banner of forced civilian disarmament (since they all think they'll be the ones pulling the strings afterward). Most of these faiths do not possess traits inherently sympathetic to anti-gun statists (though make no mistake; some most certainly do) and the policies are entirely the result of leadership located...in North Eastern urban enclaves.

The Nooge is hopelessly clueless if he thinks Judaism has anything to do with the anti-gun statist impulse. It's New York City that's the problem (and surrounding burroughs). That Jewish immigrants clumped together there by chance is the only reason this demographic group finds so much support for anti-gun policies --not at a very different rate than any other demographic from that den of iniquity, however.

TCB
 
There's desire for gun control, and gun freedom in every single demographic. The thing is, I don't think there are any Jewish republicans in office. have a look-see.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_affiliation_in_the_United_States_Senate

So it would stand to reason that if all the Jewish senators are Democrats then they probably fall inline with the democratic ideals.

We can criticize Democrats though right? I mean, its not fair to judge someone based on their race or creed. But Democrats CHOOSE to be Democrats... Fair game i say.
 
When he says he thinks Jews are at fault for anti-gun policies, he's basically saying he doesn't think Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, and the Clintons are problems.

There are Jews who support the second amendment.
There are Jews that don't.
There are non-Jews who support the second amendment.
There are non-Jews that don't.

Also, why the heck is he using Israeli flags to mark American Jews? Does he not know that accusing Jews of being disloyal to their home countries and instead loyal to a world Jewish conspiracy is a hundred-year-old theme common in all predominant forms of anti-Semitism?
 
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No one pays any attention to Ted Nugent outside the gun world. He hasn't been the same since he cut his hair anyway.


Hi, I’m Ted Nugent. I have nine children from seven women, and I’m running for president.” Nugent takes a sip of water, having delivered his potential slogan. “Yeah, I’m thinking about it.”"
 
Ted Nugent was BORN WAY OVER THE LINE. I cringe when I see him and his antics. However, I very very seriously doubt that he is an anti-Semitic nut job. Just can't put him on that at all. Looks like another frame job by a novice left wing hater to me. And while I am at it folks. I truly believe that this present gun control "debate" is not about guns at all. The people pushing for the confiscation of guns are trying to prosecute an agenda of hate towards a class of people that they want to hurt. Just like they want to crush the God-fearing among us, they want to crush those dirty gun owners. The liberal media and teachers unions have been indoctrinating children against traditional values for generations now. ---just my 2 cents
 
There is a tendency to attribute knowledge to people with celebrity, popularity, or even just name recognition.

An actor or singer plays a part or sings a song about a certain subject, and immediately he or she is a spokesperson on that subject. They hand a script to this person, they act it or sing it, and now they're an authority. I'm sure you can all think of examples. Same goes for political endorsements by these people.

Sad commentary on the public's perception of where actual knowledge resides. Even sadder that they would follow or vote for such a person.
 
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