Discouraging coyotes hanging around the house?

[bensdad]

Alrighty then...
Check the local regs about poisoning. The OP wanted suggestions about dealing with yotes. Poison is one way of dealing with yotes. In some places it's legal. I would imagine it's pretty effective.

You might have to purchase a comercial poison though. I'd be surprised if you can just put out a dish of anti-freeze next to a t-bone.

 

[rooter]

I think there should be an ethical debate in this thread about indiscriminately poisoning animals

Plexreticle, do you have something useful to add to this thread? The original post asked for a solution to a problem. Neither of your posts had anything to do with the question at hand. If you want to debate ethics, perhaps you should start a new thread.

 

[Hook686]

Hmmmmmm This is the High Road ... some suggestions just might be viewed by some as the Low Road .... Why do you have a problem with people expressing their thoughts and ideas ?

I've never seen a coyote trapped except with a foot trap. However, if the buggers are getting so bold and social, a good sized trap with bait might work. I would think Animal Control would have some ideas ... what have they suggested ?

 

[koja48]

I'd try an airsoft gun, if such is legal in your area.

 

[Art Eatman]

Poisons and leg-hold traps are addressed "To whom it may concern" and you can easily windup becoming the Neighborhood Pariah. All sorts of paybacks if somebody's cat or dog suffers. File those in "Really Bad Ideas".

Live traps are said to not be effective for coyotes. Apparently they don't like any sort of entry into a confined area. I don't personally know.

If yelling doesn't work, and thelaw won't let you shoot, go bug the city council. "What are you going to do about this invasion of coyotes that's killing our pets? Why don't you care about our pets? What do you have against pets and little children?"

 

[plexreticle]

Plexreticle, do you have something useful to add to this thread? The original post asked for a solution to a problem. Neither of your posts had anything to do with the question at hand. If you want to debate ethics, perhaps you should start a new thread.

rooter, I did ad something useful . I pointed out your idea of indiscriminate killing of animals by using homemade poisonous concoctions is a bad idea.

 

[Funderb]

they make game deterrent shotgun shells that are legal.
they shoot out a small projectile with a report. mostly used on bears.
can shoot them out of a flare gun.

 

[dagger dog]

Can you shoot bow and arrow? 20 feet is getting into bow country. A ordinary run of the mill compound is available for less than 200$ sights included, a week at the butts and you're good to go. Use broaheads,get one in the boiler room , they,re dead, watch the backstop the arrow will pass through. As bold as you claim it should be easy for the first couple but then they'll wise up!

 

[Ridgerunner665]

This may not be an option for you but IT WILL WORK... get a pet miniature donkey...donkeys and mules will kill canines on sight...I know, I have 2 donkeys, 1 mule and 6 horses...the mule has killed about 20 coyotes in the past 7 years, then donkeys only have 4 (they can't run as fast)...the horses just panic and run away.

 

[Pilot]

If yelling doesn't work, and thelaw won't let you shoot, go bug the city council. "What are you going to do about this invasion of coyotes that's killing our pets? Why don't you care about our pets? What do you have against pets and little children?"

I live in a pretty densely poplated suburban area with a large easement behind our house that is a hiking/biking trail. There are coyotes back there and nobody is going to do anything about it. They are not a menace, however, people know better to let their cats roam as they get eaten pretty quickly.

 

[Steve H]

If yelling doesn't work, and thelaw won't let you shoot, go bug the city council. "What are you going to do about this invasion of coyotes that's killing our pets? Why don't you care about our pets? What do you have against pets and little children?"

I agree with the above BUT if they (the city) will not help with the problem I'd get some range time in with a crossbow.

 

[41magsnub]

I have run off problem critters before with a bow and arrow with the rubber boot over the arrow. Never hit coyote, but it worked on deer.

 

[99sparks]

At the time I did not have a pet so if you have pets this may not work. This may not work on coyotes. But then again it might.

Once upon a time a long, long, time ago I had neighbors that had two very large dogs. When they let the dogs out they would run to my yard and leave very large deposits. I went to a pet store and got some dog and cat repellent. I got twice what I needed. I mixed the dog and cat repellent with fertilizer and then fertilized my yard. I only used the dog and cat repellent on the problem side of my lawn.

I happened to be on my deck when the neighbors let the dogs out. The dogs were out about the same time every day after work and I got home before they did so I had the opportunity to watch. The dogs ran to my yard got about three steps in and came to a screeching halt. Looked at there feet and backed out of my yard. My “deposit” problem stopped.

They never came back in my yard. If it works on coyotes you are in luck. If not you spent less than a box of ammo.

 

[Funderb]

put a primer on the end of an arrow.
when the primer hits something is goes BANG
and you never actually have to hit anything.

 

[TAB]

Take some table scarps( fat trimings would be perfect.) soak them in the hotest hot suace you can find, when you see them, feed them that... they should get the message.

 

[coyotehitman]

Better yet get some arsenic put it in some bird seed and let the food chain take care of the rest.

Hmmmmmm This is the High Road ... some suggestions just might be viewed by some as the Low Road ....

Good point there.

If you don't want a debate then don't defend it.

Why do you have a problem with people expressing their thoughts and ideas ?

Good question.

Not taking sides here, just an all too common observation...
New guy makes a suggestion or chimes in.
Senior guy takes it personal and goes on a tangent.
New guy is somehow wrong?
Interesting.
Anyway, sticking to the topic.

Some creative methods mentioned here. How is the trajectory on those rubber booted arrows?

Several cities around here have ordinances that prohibit discharging a firearm, prohibit shooting a BB gun, prohibit any type of hunting, slingshots I am unsure about, but my guess is no. Doesn't leave many options. You would be hard pressed to trap a coyote unless you found a stupid one or were a professional trapper. I coyote hunt extensively and they are sly, cunning survivors.

Maybe, in your situation, with your restrictions, call a professional trapper or install a chain link or electric fence???

Most problems like these can also be solved with an appropriately placed charge of C4...Just kidding.

 

[springmom]

Not taking sides here, just an all too common observation...
New guy makes a suggestion or chimes in.
Senior guy takes it personal and goes on a tangent.
New guy is somehow wrong?

Irrelevant. As Art said, "to whom it may concern" solutions are indeed Really Bad Ideas. You live on a ranch, you have options. You live in a neighborhood, you need to come up with solutions that will not kill other people's pets. Or your own. I doubt anyone who owns a dog can categorically say that no dog of theirs has EVER gotten out when it wasn't supposed to.

Ethylene glycol is a horrible way for an animal to die. Most of us are concerned with the humane taking of animals....that's why we spend a lot of time discussing what round is optimal for certain animals. We don't WANT an animal to crawl away and die in agony. I guarantee you, that is exactly what happens to an animal that ingests ethylene glycol.

This has nothing to do with new guy/old guy (or old gal). It has to do with taking care of the problem without unintended or unwelcome consequences.

Springmom

 

[coyotehitman]

I suggest you reread the posts. Rooter offers a suggestion. Plexreticle makes a sarcastic remark in response. Rooter says he/she doesn't want to start an ethical debate. Plexreticle responds sarcastically. Rooter suggests he/she start a new thread if he wants a debate. Someone chimes in implying Rooter is being Low Road. The comments directed at Rooter were better directed at Plexreticle IMO. I suspect I know why they were not though. As Mr. Gump said, "That's all I have to say about that."

I do not advocate using posion, but I do not care if someone else suggests using it. As far as I am concerned, the point has been made that some do not like the idea of using it, while some do. Enough said.

Take some table scarps( fat trimings would be perfect.) soak them in the hotest hot suace you can find, when you see them, feed them that... they should get the message.

I am not sure this would work with a coyote. Surely, they would smell the hot sauce, take a lick, and decide whether the risk was worth the reward. Best I can describe a coyote is--take the smartest dog you know of, double its intellect, and you have almost reached the level of the dumbest coyote. They have been outsmarting me for years and they never seem to amaze me. The only time I have seen them make dumb mistakes is when they are starving or sick.

I hunt and kill alot of coyotes. I had one in particular that was eating a man's chickens, had killed a calf, and chased his beagle. I couldn't get that coyote to come in while I was within 300 yards of the farm. Ultimatley, I hunted over a live chicken. Wiley came in just after dark and took a one to the boiler room. No more problems after Wiley was gone. These coyotes are a problem pretty much everywhere in the US and I only see it getting worse.

 

[JesseL]

Well; yesterday I picked up some paintballs for the old paintball marker, and a fresh band for the wristrocket.

We'll see how it goes.

 

[coyotehitman]

Chill your paintballs or freeze them and they'll be like a huge BB.

 

[Eyesac]

I say call your local officals, and get a cheap airsoft pistol.

 

[auschip]

Chill your paintballs or freeze them and they'll be like a huge BB.

Paintballs don't freeze. Depending on the brand, attempting to freeze a paintball will at best make the shell out of round. At worst, they become more brittle and break in the gun. A paintball flying at 280-300FPS will have enough force to discourage most coyotes. Your neighbors will most likely still cause trouble if they see you doing this.

I use an airsoft gun for a pest deterent. I'm lucky to have a good one, but a cheap one from Academy or similar will do the trick.

 

[ArmedBear]

I've always wanted an excuse to buy one of these. But I've never had one. You do.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t...at21424&parentType=category&parentId=cat21424

BTW some cities that don't allow shooting do allow for the use of firearms to eliminate pests, either with a permit or sometimes even without one. Others don't even allow BB guns. I don't know about Prescott's laws.

If you can use a pellet gun, Gamo now makes a suppressed 1200 fps air rifle, something else I'd love an excuse to buy.

http://www.gamousa.com/Catalog.aspx?Family=71

As far as indiscriminately poisoning animals, that's just wrong, for any number of reasons. You want to eliminate specific pests, not kill a lot of nearby pets and wildlife.

 

[rooter]

Paintballs don't freeze. Depending on the brand, attempting to freeze a paintball will at best make the shell out of round. At worst, they become more brittle and break in the gun.

I wondered about this. Can you not shoot paintballs in winter then?
If they do freeze or congeal, seems like they would be off balance cause the material would accumulate to one side or the other.

 

[auschip]

I wondered about this. Can you not shoot paintballs in winter then?
If they do freeze or congeal, seems like they would be off balance cause the material would accumulate to one side or the other.

You can play in the winter, and either lower your velocity to be easier on the ball or just live with the breaks. They did make an alternate shell that was a little thicker called Polar Ball. I haven't played in awhile so I don't know if it or something similar is still available.