drunk + foolin' around + cleaning gun = Felony Charge

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Like Forrest Gump says...

Stupid is as stupid does.

I guess he wasn't to concerned about over penetration when he chose his ammo. :eek:

http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091215/GJNEWS_01/712159963


Dover man shoots self in hand, is charged with reckless conduct
Tuesday, December 15, 2009

DOVER — A local man has been charged with a felony after a bullet he fired from his handgun traveled through his hand, the walls of his apartment and then into the bedroom of a neighboring apartment.

No one inside the neighboring apartment was hurt but police allege that Jeffrey Dewing's recklessness put his neighbors in danger.

The incident happened at around 2 a.m. on Dec. 4.

Police Lt. Dave Terlemezian said police and fire were called to Dewing's residence at 84 Tideview Drive, a condominium complex, for a report of a man who shot himself in the hand. When police arrived at the residence they met with Dewing and saw the gunshot wound on his left hand.

Terlemezian said the bullet entered the palm of Dewing's left hand and then exited through the top of his wrist. Dewing, 52, was taken to Wentworth-Douglass Hospital for treatment.

During subsequent investigation police tracked where the bullet from the gun traveled and determined that it had traveled through one wall in the apartment into another room within the apartment and then into another wall that led to a neighboring apartment.

Terlemezian said the bullet finally came to a rest in a bedroom ceiling of that apartment about 41⁄2 feet above a bed that a couple was sleeping in.

"My understanding was they heard something that night but was not aware of the bullet until the next day when they saw it," Terlemezian said. "They were shocked."

Officers talked to the couple the next day and told them about what had happened.

Dewing later told officers that he was both messing around with the gun and dismantling it for cleaning, according to Terlemezian. Terlemezian said Dewing was intoxicated when he was doing this and claimed that he didn't know the gun was loaded.

Police investigated the incident for more than a week and arrested Dewing on Monday, charging him with reckless conduct.

"Obviously his failure to use care when handling a firearm, as well as his level of intoxication, clearly makes this a reckless act," Terlemezian said. "The danger, which speaks for itself, caused serious injury to himself and could've caused serious injury or death to his neighbors."

Terlemezian said one other person was in the apartment when Dewing fired the gun but was downstairs and not in danger. He said that person placed the 911 call about Dewing's injury.

Dewing is currently free on $5,000 personal recognizance bail and is scheduled for arraignment at Dover District Court on Jan. 15. Reckless conduct in a Class B felony punishable by up to 31⁄2 to 7 years in prison.
 
I can understand "I was unloading it and it went off", "I dropped it and accidently grabbed the trigger and it went off", "I was reholstering it and it went off", or even "I slid through the waist of my sweatpants and went off" (regardless of how dumb this was...Plaxico Burress)

I cannot understand "I was cleaning the gun and it went off". Yet this is almost always the reason given for an AD. Why would a person even start cleaning a gun without opening the action?

Are they cleaning the OUTSIDE of the gun? Like polishing a silver teapot or washing dishes?:confused:
 
Alcohol and guns don't usually "go together" in the typical persons mind.. Just saying.

I don't see anything wrong with a cold beer on a hot day when we're out shooting (on our own private land, mind you)

Intoxication, however, is a different story.

No different than cars. I can have 1 or 2 beers and be fine to drive or shoot. I won't do either when I know I've had too many.
 
Drinking and doing anything can lead to less than favorable results; after consuming alcohol the first thing impaired is your judgment. I have two DUIs; I don't consume alcohol and handle firearms- but to each their own.

To quote G.K. Chesterton-

"The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog." - Broadcast talk 6-11-35

-and-

"Man is always something worse or something better than an animal; and a mere argument from animal perfection never touches him at all. Thus, in sex no animal is either chivalrous or obscene. And thus no animal invented anything so bad as drunkeness - or so good as drink." - "Wine when it is red" All Things Considered
 
"Obviously his failure to use care when handling a firearm, as well as his level of intoxication, clearly makes this a reckless act,"


Sums up my thoughts perfectly.

Nothing wrong with a beer or so while shooting/cleaning/etc., but you have had too much (even if it was only one!) if you "didnt know the gun was loaded".

Simply idiotic. :fire: I hope he gets the seven.
 
There is very little chance that they will actually convict him of a felony. By the time this is all done, he will more than likely plead down to a misdemeanor and pay a fine. All this will (and probably already has) scare the hell out of him and hopefully he will be a better man for it...

And remember, with the exception of being drunk, which was obviously very stupid, there but for the grace of God go others who have had negligent discharges and those who will...

Even after one drink, your fine motor skills are starting to diminish. Do you really want to be dealing with things that can kill or maim easily with diminished motor skills?
 
I would like to know what level of intoxication the guy was in. Was he hammered? Buzzed? Just sippin on a beer? We will never know that. Its just like if you are backing out of your driveway and back into a post. If you had ONE beer, it was because you were drinking. I hear them say that thirty percent of all crashes are alcohol related. Well if thats the truth, then it appears that you should drive drunk because 70 percent of crashes happen to sober people. Does that mean that you have more of a chance of having a wreck if your sober? There is nothing that I like more that to crack open a six pack, and clean all of my guns and take my time. I do however unload them first.
 
There is very little chance that they will actually convict him of a felony. By the time this is all done, he will more than likely plead down to a misdemeanor and pay a fine. All this will (and probably already has) scare the hell out of him and hopefully he will be a better man for it..

He'll get several years probation, concealed weapon permit revoked(if he has one, or ineligibility to get one for X amount of time) and have to take some state mandated courses...who knows, we had a customer that a similar event happened, he had no alcohol or prior convictions and still ended up with all the above.
 
He already taught himself a lesson with some severe punishment no less. (Shooting himself). Now he will for sure get some charge to stick. Its just re-inforcement, hopefully he will be more mindful of stupidity in an apartment complex. I religiously follow 4 rule routine even when I know its empty, just so its so second nature I hope I will never ever make a mistake. If I am inattentive or in a hurry, I postpone fire arm handling to a later time when I have better presence of mind.

I saw a story in the paper where a guy fresh out of Air force academy had an AD in Arlington VA. He went to jail for couple of months. I don't know what that did to his air force career. I pity him, and thought they should have been easier on him, but unfortunately in life you don't always make your own luck, and sometimes the most undeserving guy gets the shaft and the most deserving just walks free.:rolleyes:
 
I would like to know what level of intoxication the guy was in. Was he hammered? Buzzed? Just sippin on a beer? We will never know that..

Hardly matters and is impossible to know. He negligently discharged a firearm. That is the big issue w/ the story.


Its just like if you are backing out of your driveway and back into a post. If you had ONE beer, it was because you were drinking. I hear them say that thirty percent of all crashes are alcohol related. Well if thats the truth, then it appears that you should drive drunk because 70 percent of crashes happen to sober people...

Please tell me you are not serious....:banghead::banghead:


There is nothing that I like more that to crack open a six pack, and clean all of my guns and take my time. I do however unload them first.


Bolded is the BIG issue here. I check my guns when I first pick them up, and again before I place them down, and yet again when I pick them up for a second time. This ALWAYS happens, when by myself or with others. I have never had a gun load itself, but thats not really the point. It is about RESPONSIBILITY.

Overly cautious? Perhaps...even sure. But I have never had an accidental discharge. Then again, there is no such thing as an "accidental" discharge IMO
 
He'll get several years probation, concealed weapon permit revoked(if he has one, or ineligibility to get one for X amount of time) and have to take some state mandated courses...who knows, we had a customer that a similar event happened, he had no alcohol or prior convictions and still ended up with all the above.

Sounds justified to me.

We ALL make mistakes at sometime or another, but there is no excuse for making a mistake with a firearm. They require ALL of your attention ALL of the time.
 
I saw over emphasis being placed on the intoxication of the subject. Yes he should have been more careful. But I guarantee that the fact that he was drinking at the time will increase the likelyhood that the guy will come close to getting the chair.
 
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I don't see anything wrong with a cold beer on a hot day when we're out shooting (on our own private land, mind you)

Intoxication, however, is a different story.

No different than cars. I can have 1 or 2 beers and be fine to drive or shoot. I won't do either when I know I've had too many.

I don't have a problem with someone having a beer on their own private land and shooting. All I'm saying is when guns and alcohol are in the same sentence, it's almost always looked at in a negative light and now how you or I would see as enjoying a day with a nice gun.

It goes without saying intoxication and firearms are a "no-no." :p

Personally. Guns and Alcohol aren't ever going to be in the same place around me. J/S.
 
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Maybe he was one of those boobs that thought he could just wipe it down without going through the trouble of unloading it.
 
I will never live in apartments again. Once a neighbor shot a 30-06 through several apartments while he was cleaning it. He went hunting that morning and decided to clean it, he "forgot to check if it was loaded." :mad:

Never again. I have a brick house and my chances of being shot by idiotic neighbors drastically reduces.
 
"Guns and alcohol don't mix"..... Then help me understand how the hell they sell BEER at the gunshows in Charlotte, NC?????? I don't agree with it, I will NEVER agree with it and I can't believe it's done!!!!!!

I'm all for a cold beer or a shot of something, but it's after we're through with the guns.....
 
Sounds justified to me.

We ALL make mistakes at sometime or another, but there is no excuse for making a mistake with a firearm. They require ALL of your attention ALL of the time

Sounds justified to many people, mostly in law enforcement, the 'system' and such, brainwashed folks that enforce alcohol is the root of all evil, and I am NOT saying this is you or your beliefs.

How does the "we all make mistakes sometimes, but there is no excuse for making a mistake with a firearm" work, a mistake is a mistake, with or without a firearm. It is a damn bad and costly mistake with a firearm, but a mistake non the less!

Today's society, or I should say the injustice system has figured out that man is just that, man...and in imperfect, and there is a ton of money to be made from it.

It is all about responsibility, which is eluding nowadays at best, I don't advocate drinking or any judgment impairing substance while in proximity of any firearm, vehicle, explosive or whatever, but to railroad this guy that bad is not helpful to him or anyone else, it's just going to make law enforcement money.

Ruining this guys life over this type of thing is really going to help us all, he may loose his job, family problems, criminal record so on, hey, IF he had killed someone, then yes, smack em' hard, but stupid is as stupid does, you really think this is going to teach a less responsible person...responsibility...no!

Why don't they try to educate this guy, take away some privileges, but the criminal thing, yea, right, that works.
 
I've read somewhere that if you do a task 10 times continuously it gets ingrained and becomes rote memory. I can't attest to that method, but everytime I handle a gun I check to see if it's loaded. I've never tried it, but if someone will pay for the booze, would bet that I'd check the gun if I were still able to move my arms, no matter how drunk! (make sure it's unloaded just in case;))
 
I saw over emphasis being placed on the intoxication of the subject. Yes he should have been more careful. But I guarantee that the fact that he was drinking at the time will increase the likelyhood that the guy will come close to getting the chair.

I dont know about 'the chair' but here in WA, drinking and shooting your 6 yr old between the eyes will get you 13 yrs. I remember the stories in the news, guy was drinking vodka and cleaning his gun......


http://www.skyvalleychronicle.com/BREAKING-NEWS/MARYSVILLE-MAN-WHO-SHOT-DAUGHTER-GETS-13-YEARS


(may need to scroll to see story)

It was only about a yr ago and was very near here.....incredibly sad.
 
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