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Facts of Life
<pulls out Zippo, lights a Marlboro Red>
*cough* *hack* *cough*
Well then don't breathe while I smoke.
Now I got the right to be wrong - which means I also got the right to be right.
I just happen to be right is all.
I. Guns
It don't make a tinker's damn what anyone else uses, be it a Police Department, or a branch of the Military.
If a gun does not fit the shooter, they are not going to be worth a damn with it.
Gun fit encompasses a lot of things.
We got a search feature here, look it up.
Life example of lying to one's self -
Broadway Joe Joe Namath, quarterback for NY Jets back in the day, come up with the idea that wearing pantyhouse, kept him warm playing in cold climates. Other Professional Football players, College players found this to be true.
Silk Underwear , was not thin enough, and poly-pro was not out yet.
Every swinging Richard got a pair of pantyhose and thought they were a real deal professional quarterback, and these knuckleheads did not know what a football was, how to do anything with one, but they sure could strut and tell stories how pantyhose kept them warm and they beat the Key West Seashells 129-14 with a 159 yard pass with .99999 seconds to go in the game in a blinding snowstorm down in FL with the temps a minus 70*
Go shoot a bunch of guns, find one that fits you, and get some lessons and be one with the gun and to heck with anyone that says different.
II. Ladies and Guns.
Guys, just shut up and leave the ladies alone will ya.
Ladies, tell daddy, hubby, BF , your boss, whoever the guy is, to get lost.
Ladies do better with Ladies.
Just find a place with ladies and be yourself, meaning unlike guys with two heads and egos, "Girls, I don't know squat, but willing to learn, so what is what?
Let the ladies get some guns together, make arrangements at a rental range, whatever and get what you like.
The male in your life don't like it, get him some pantyhose and tell him he is a stud looking football player and he will be on 'Net with his buddies all night playing Broadway Joe does Cyberspace.
III. Kids and Gun.
First off just Cold Cock the first person that says kids should not shoot guns.
Some folks just need hitting anyway.
If a family member, fire them.
If a friend , fire them too.
Life is just too short to have some folks breathing your oxygen anyway.
Fun is the key. Yeah Yeah Yeah we got Safety Stuff.
Make the safety stuff fun. I mean if a girl wants pink on her safety stuff, fine, make it fun. If a boy wants a NASCAR sticker on his, go for it.
Got a old "Dead Head" sticker and some little lady thinks this is cool, great, stick on her range bag for safety stuff.
.22 single shot rifle.
Get one, hell get three.
I don't care if a old one , or a new one. Just have one a kid can learn to shoot on.
I don't care if you don't have kids, I don't care if you don't have nieces or nephews.
Do you really need "another" thigh holster and this time in LazyBoy Camo just because you have a C note burning a hole in your pocket?
Next time you have some money you just gotta spend, put down the $35 bottle of gun lube that enhances erection, promises to make you drive like Jackie Stewart and TEEM Tinkerbell uses in Iceland...
Get a Spinnner target, more bricks of .22 ammo, more safety eyes and ears...
IV. How to shoot a gun.
Correct basic fundamentals are the key.
One you have found the gun that fits YOU, get some quality lessons on whatever you are going to use the thing for.
All shooting is, is correct basic fundamentals repeated over and over and over and over again.
One cannot buy skill and targets.
Just because Sophie Loren wore Platex bras, does not mean if you wear a Platex bra you are going to become a curvaceous movie star.
V. Shotguns.
<lights another Marlboro Red>
So you want to be a shotgunner?
First off, there is a difference in owning a shotgun, and being a shotgunner.
Now, I happen to be right on all this. The fact that other folks , including some "known" folks agree with all this, just supports all this.
Accept it - Some stuff just "are". "A is A" as Ayn Rand said.
Most standard shotguns off the rack are just mass produced to fit a 5'10" male that weighs about 165 # and has a sleeve length of 32"
Sorry, but the factory just wants your money and it is up to you deal with the rest. Called Life, deal with it.
Shotguns are pointed - not aimed.
So YOU and the Shotgun have to FIT as one.
How many folks have a ghost ring sighting system on their forearm/ wrist/ index finger when they point at a light switch across the room?
Hell I knew there would be at least three in the crowd...*sigh*
TEEM SEEL 37.5 is meeting down the hall, hurry, and you might still get the free decoder rings and mouse pads with 4.5" ultimate extreme exotic 00000 buckshot on them...<door shuts, they gone>
"What shotgun do I buy?" - you ask
You don't go out and buy one yet.
"But I am lady and have filed a restraining order and am in fear of my life"
No problem, I can fix that in 5 min and have you up to speed on a shotgun in ten minutes or less. Just have seat next to me and after I finish we will deal with this. I have a helluva lot of experience in this area.
Now go find a seasoned shotgunner, that knows not only about gun fit, correct basic fundamentals, they also know how to read and access a person in using a shotgun.
Ladies, go find a lady. If there is a guy recommended, such as I am to ladies having earned a certain reputation with ladies , then ladies YOU have to feel comfortable with a guy assisting.
I prefer to have a lady assist me with another lady.
Girls got parts and have certain questions and needs guys don't.
Then again, I have earned a place to where I can be asked anything, and be adult about it, no matter how personal.
When I have to put hands on a lady, I ask permission and do not take advantage of it.
A variety of shotguns are available and the basic lessons on gun fit.
A bent arm and a shotgun only tells one that have a bent arm and a shotgun.
Sorta like a dime and a muzzle for checking a choke. All that tells one is they have a dime and a shotgun barrel.
28 gauge guns is what I and a lot of others prefer to actually start a new shooter on.
I don't care if they are 6'5" and play Linebacker or 4'10 and have to dance in the shower to get wet.
Wood stock, bone stock shotguns.
Wood is denser and has less perceived recoil.
Wood allows for fitting the gun.
Synthetic does not allow for a LOP to be properly adjusted. No meat to attach the recoil pad.
Synthetic - Forget drop at comb, pitch, cast on, cast off and getting/ having a variety of bone stock shotguns for a new shooter.
Now after actually shooting a variety of wood, bone stocked shotguns , from the ones the seasoned shooter has made arrangements to have for you, the one that fits the best, is further tweaked to fit the shooter.
So the stock has a pc of moleskin on the comb? It fits, it shoots where pointed and breaks clays moving 55 mph.
Ask me if I care a stock has a matchbook shim "here" and one "there" to tweak the fit. I don't, the student does not seen to care, she is grinning and having a good time breaking low 7 and if we don't find some more clays and /or shells she is going to toss a hissy fit as she ain't wanting to stop breaking clays.
2 hours earlier she did not know what a LOP or Pitch was. Now she is ready for Team Beretta. *grin*
Those stock dimensions are what the student gets when they finally buy their own shotgun. A seasoned shooter with a quality gunsmith, that also knows about gun fit tweaks the stock.
Books by Brister and Misseldine are bought and read.
Everything from pattern boards, chokes, loads, stance, you name are learned.
Repetitions of correct mounting of gun to face every night to instill and ingrained. Stamina is also built up.
Will Fennell is on the East Coast, go see him and get lessons for example.
He will share the custom guns used by Big Boys and Girls are fit to the shooter - and many do not have beads on the gun on purpose.
TrapperReady, PJR, Lee Lapin, and of course Dave McCracken doing search will turn up other great tips.
VI. Ammunition.
1. Gun has to feed and extract and the magazines are an integral part of a semi-auto.
2. What ammunition is the gun designed to use?
i.e. Most dedicated .38spl guns were designed to shoot 158 gr loads to Point of Aim.
i.e Older shotguns, and some current one were/are manufactured for instance when/for 2 3/4", 2 3/4, or 3 dr eqiv of 1 1/8 oz of shot were the accepted standard at skeet/trap.
1 oz and for sure 7/8oz loads won't run them, because (a) that loading was not even a factory loading back when, and (b) you guessed it, the gun was not designed to run it.
So quit sticking shotgun shells in a gun that was not made to run those shells and problems will cease - promise.
[Point of Aim /Point of Impact (POA/POI)
3. It does not matter what a box of ammunition says, what marketing says, what the Internet says.
What does shooting the ammunition actually do out of your gun?
Shotguns : Say hello to Mr/Mrs Pattern board, they will be your host today.
Handguns/rifles : say hello to Mr/Mrs target downrange, they have some things to reveal to you.
Defensive stuff : Real simple, gun has to run, and projectile go where it is supposed to.
Forget the oopy goopy stuff.
Just get a load that works every time in your gun and mags if a semi, and stick with a proven load like a 158 gr LSWC-HP for a 38 spl, 115 /124(my preference) standard pressure 9mm, 230 gr standard pressure hardball, JHP, or 200 gr #68 .
.40 cal? Heck if know, I don't do .40. My gun platforms and calibers were chosen w-ay before this came to be.
Just some facts of life as I see 'em.
Never cared much for what folks thought of me nohow, so it won't hurt my feelings if you do not agree.
<pulls out Zippo, lights a Marlboro Red>
*cough* *hack* *cough*
Well then don't breathe while I smoke.
Now I got the right to be wrong - which means I also got the right to be right.
I just happen to be right is all.
I. Guns
It don't make a tinker's damn what anyone else uses, be it a Police Department, or a branch of the Military.
If a gun does not fit the shooter, they are not going to be worth a damn with it.
Gun fit encompasses a lot of things.
We got a search feature here, look it up.
Life example of lying to one's self -
Broadway Joe Joe Namath, quarterback for NY Jets back in the day, come up with the idea that wearing pantyhouse, kept him warm playing in cold climates. Other Professional Football players, College players found this to be true.
Silk Underwear , was not thin enough, and poly-pro was not out yet.
Every swinging Richard got a pair of pantyhose and thought they were a real deal professional quarterback, and these knuckleheads did not know what a football was, how to do anything with one, but they sure could strut and tell stories how pantyhose kept them warm and they beat the Key West Seashells 129-14 with a 159 yard pass with .99999 seconds to go in the game in a blinding snowstorm down in FL with the temps a minus 70*
Go shoot a bunch of guns, find one that fits you, and get some lessons and be one with the gun and to heck with anyone that says different.
II. Ladies and Guns.
Guys, just shut up and leave the ladies alone will ya.
Ladies, tell daddy, hubby, BF , your boss, whoever the guy is, to get lost.
Ladies do better with Ladies.
Just find a place with ladies and be yourself, meaning unlike guys with two heads and egos, "Girls, I don't know squat, but willing to learn, so what is what?
Let the ladies get some guns together, make arrangements at a rental range, whatever and get what you like.
The male in your life don't like it, get him some pantyhose and tell him he is a stud looking football player and he will be on 'Net with his buddies all night playing Broadway Joe does Cyberspace.
III. Kids and Gun.
First off just Cold Cock the first person that says kids should not shoot guns.
Some folks just need hitting anyway.
If a family member, fire them.
If a friend , fire them too.
Life is just too short to have some folks breathing your oxygen anyway.
Fun is the key. Yeah Yeah Yeah we got Safety Stuff.
Make the safety stuff fun. I mean if a girl wants pink on her safety stuff, fine, make it fun. If a boy wants a NASCAR sticker on his, go for it.
Got a old "Dead Head" sticker and some little lady thinks this is cool, great, stick on her range bag for safety stuff.
.22 single shot rifle.
Get one, hell get three.
I don't care if a old one , or a new one. Just have one a kid can learn to shoot on.
I don't care if you don't have kids, I don't care if you don't have nieces or nephews.
Do you really need "another" thigh holster and this time in LazyBoy Camo just because you have a C note burning a hole in your pocket?
Next time you have some money you just gotta spend, put down the $35 bottle of gun lube that enhances erection, promises to make you drive like Jackie Stewart and TEEM Tinkerbell uses in Iceland...
Get a Spinnner target, more bricks of .22 ammo, more safety eyes and ears...
IV. How to shoot a gun.
Correct basic fundamentals are the key.
One you have found the gun that fits YOU, get some quality lessons on whatever you are going to use the thing for.
All shooting is, is correct basic fundamentals repeated over and over and over and over again.
One cannot buy skill and targets.
Just because Sophie Loren wore Platex bras, does not mean if you wear a Platex bra you are going to become a curvaceous movie star.
V. Shotguns.
<lights another Marlboro Red>
So you want to be a shotgunner?
First off, there is a difference in owning a shotgun, and being a shotgunner.
Now, I happen to be right on all this. The fact that other folks , including some "known" folks agree with all this, just supports all this.
Accept it - Some stuff just "are". "A is A" as Ayn Rand said.
Most standard shotguns off the rack are just mass produced to fit a 5'10" male that weighs about 165 # and has a sleeve length of 32"
Sorry, but the factory just wants your money and it is up to you deal with the rest. Called Life, deal with it.
Shotguns are pointed - not aimed.
So YOU and the Shotgun have to FIT as one.
How many folks have a ghost ring sighting system on their forearm/ wrist/ index finger when they point at a light switch across the room?
Hell I knew there would be at least three in the crowd...*sigh*
TEEM SEEL 37.5 is meeting down the hall, hurry, and you might still get the free decoder rings and mouse pads with 4.5" ultimate extreme exotic 00000 buckshot on them...<door shuts, they gone>
"What shotgun do I buy?" - you ask
You don't go out and buy one yet.
"But I am lady and have filed a restraining order and am in fear of my life"
No problem, I can fix that in 5 min and have you up to speed on a shotgun in ten minutes or less. Just have seat next to me and after I finish we will deal with this. I have a helluva lot of experience in this area.
Now go find a seasoned shotgunner, that knows not only about gun fit, correct basic fundamentals, they also know how to read and access a person in using a shotgun.
Ladies, go find a lady. If there is a guy recommended, such as I am to ladies having earned a certain reputation with ladies , then ladies YOU have to feel comfortable with a guy assisting.
I prefer to have a lady assist me with another lady.
Girls got parts and have certain questions and needs guys don't.
Then again, I have earned a place to where I can be asked anything, and be adult about it, no matter how personal.
When I have to put hands on a lady, I ask permission and do not take advantage of it.
A variety of shotguns are available and the basic lessons on gun fit.
A bent arm and a shotgun only tells one that have a bent arm and a shotgun.
Sorta like a dime and a muzzle for checking a choke. All that tells one is they have a dime and a shotgun barrel.
28 gauge guns is what I and a lot of others prefer to actually start a new shooter on.
I don't care if they are 6'5" and play Linebacker or 4'10 and have to dance in the shower to get wet.
Wood stock, bone stock shotguns.
Wood is denser and has less perceived recoil.
Wood allows for fitting the gun.
Synthetic does not allow for a LOP to be properly adjusted. No meat to attach the recoil pad.
Synthetic - Forget drop at comb, pitch, cast on, cast off and getting/ having a variety of bone stock shotguns for a new shooter.
Now after actually shooting a variety of wood, bone stocked shotguns , from the ones the seasoned shooter has made arrangements to have for you, the one that fits the best, is further tweaked to fit the shooter.
So the stock has a pc of moleskin on the comb? It fits, it shoots where pointed and breaks clays moving 55 mph.
Ask me if I care a stock has a matchbook shim "here" and one "there" to tweak the fit. I don't, the student does not seen to care, she is grinning and having a good time breaking low 7 and if we don't find some more clays and /or shells she is going to toss a hissy fit as she ain't wanting to stop breaking clays.
2 hours earlier she did not know what a LOP or Pitch was. Now she is ready for Team Beretta. *grin*
Those stock dimensions are what the student gets when they finally buy their own shotgun. A seasoned shooter with a quality gunsmith, that also knows about gun fit tweaks the stock.
Books by Brister and Misseldine are bought and read.
Everything from pattern boards, chokes, loads, stance, you name are learned.
Repetitions of correct mounting of gun to face every night to instill and ingrained. Stamina is also built up.
Will Fennell is on the East Coast, go see him and get lessons for example.
He will share the custom guns used by Big Boys and Girls are fit to the shooter - and many do not have beads on the gun on purpose.
TrapperReady, PJR, Lee Lapin, and of course Dave McCracken doing search will turn up other great tips.
VI. Ammunition.
1. Gun has to feed and extract and the magazines are an integral part of a semi-auto.
2. What ammunition is the gun designed to use?
i.e. Most dedicated .38spl guns were designed to shoot 158 gr loads to Point of Aim.
i.e Older shotguns, and some current one were/are manufactured for instance when/for 2 3/4", 2 3/4, or 3 dr eqiv of 1 1/8 oz of shot were the accepted standard at skeet/trap.
1 oz and for sure 7/8oz loads won't run them, because (a) that loading was not even a factory loading back when, and (b) you guessed it, the gun was not designed to run it.
So quit sticking shotgun shells in a gun that was not made to run those shells and problems will cease - promise.
[Point of Aim /Point of Impact (POA/POI)
3. It does not matter what a box of ammunition says, what marketing says, what the Internet says.
What does shooting the ammunition actually do out of your gun?
Shotguns : Say hello to Mr/Mrs Pattern board, they will be your host today.
Handguns/rifles : say hello to Mr/Mrs target downrange, they have some things to reveal to you.
Defensive stuff : Real simple, gun has to run, and projectile go where it is supposed to.
Forget the oopy goopy stuff.
Just get a load that works every time in your gun and mags if a semi, and stick with a proven load like a 158 gr LSWC-HP for a 38 spl, 115 /124(my preference) standard pressure 9mm, 230 gr standard pressure hardball, JHP, or 200 gr #68 .
.40 cal? Heck if know, I don't do .40. My gun platforms and calibers were chosen w-ay before this came to be.
Just some facts of life as I see 'em.
Never cared much for what folks thought of me nohow, so it won't hurt my feelings if you do not agree.
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