FDA wants restaurants to list calories

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Just as the BATF can decide on its own what constitutes "sporting purposes," other federal agencies can make up their own rules as they go along without congressional approval. This one strikes me as completely dumb. How can a restaurant determine the number of calories in a dish that's prepared by hand? How would pizzarias calculate extra toppings? How would they handle an order with pepperoni on just 1/2 of the pizza? Grrrrrr.

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THE FOOD AND Drug Administration said Thursday that labeling menus is among several proposals it is considering to help people watch what they eat.
_ _ _ _Food companies already are required to put nutrition information on the backs of food packages, and nutrition advocates have been pressuring the government and the industry to impose similar requirements on the restaurant industry.
_ _ _ _The FDA also may change its requirements for nutrition labels on food sold in grocery stores and other outlets.
_ _ _ _Joseph Levitt, vice chairman of an FDA committee studying obesity, said FDA officials are meeting with the restaurant industry, food processors and consumer groups to figure out whether it should issue new regulations or just write guidelines suggesting changes to help consumers improve their eating habits.
_ _ _ _“It’s not precisely clear at FDA what our role should be,†he said.
_ _ _ _Allison Whitesides, director of legislative affairs for the National Restaurant Association, said the industry group opposes mandatory labels on menus. It would be especially cumbersome for restaurants that serve different meals each day, she said.
_ _ _ _“We’re not a box, we’re not a can,†Whitesides said. “Cooking is an art. It’s not an exact science.â€
_ _ _ _But, she said, the industry might consider a voluntary program. She noted some fast-food chains, including McDonald’s, already display calorie information in their stores or on their Web sites.
_ _ _ _The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention regards fat as a leading health problem, estimating that 15 percent of children and 65 percent of all adults are overweight. A recent spate of lawsuits has food companies and restaurants fearful they may be blamed for it.
 
"It’s not precisely clear at FDA what our role should be,†he said.

The role of the FDA should be to butt the hell out. Imposing any such regulation would be beyond the FDA's authority, and, IMO, well beyond any possible reach of the Commerce Clause, which I'm usre would be used as the Constitutional justification.

I'm sorry, but the authority to regulate commerce among the several states just doesn't stretch that far. The steak is in the fridge, in the restaurant. I order the steak, medium, thank you. They cook the steak and bring it to my table. I eat the steak, pay for it, and tip the waiter. Unless the restaurant stradles a state line with the kitchen on one side and the dining area on the other, how is that interstate commerce?
 
How would these mom-and-pop restaurants be able to calculate all the calories exactly? Even if they could, it would take a good bit of time and they'd probably just throw out a number, unless folks from the Ministry of Healthy Meals, Special Operations Executive comes to check what's in the Tuesday Special. :rolleyes:

Do you think a sit-down fried chicken place would seriously put all the calories on the menu? Many would get up and walk out if they only knew.








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You can look at something and figure out approximately how healthy it is. Why are people screeching about this, again? Are sheeple shovelling food into their mouths without bothering to notice that, "whoa, this is deep-fat fried?"

I think the question is whether the hogs want nutrition labels for FDA employee top sirloin.
 
"It’s not precisely clear at FDA what our role should be,†he said.
1) My mom suggests prescription drug prices and why so darn high would be appreciative.
2) FDA , gummit meddlin ain't gonna get people skinny. I know that comes as a shock.
3) My theory is, we didn't know what in the heck was good or bad growing up,wait there was that saccrain (sp/) scare I recall. Heredity played a part we figured. But we put bacon grease in beans and turnip greens for heaven sake. We did play hard, worked in the yard, took walks did physical stuff. We "seemed to have" more disposable time, to excercise and spend time with family. I'm not sure but I bet we didn't have preservatives in food like we do now. Of course we ate fresh meat/fruit/vegetables. We didn't have Mickey D's until I was much older.

Methinks, its the preservatives, fast paced society in a hurry going nowhere, getting fast food for every meal and not getting excercise. Of course with the fear of kids being abducted, increase in crime kids don't play like I did growing up. We had guns, everybody had guns, we just didn't have the problems per se...of course when we did we called in ( no 911) cause we held them at bay.

Maybe gun control has made the streets/playgrounds such kids are not safe?. That gummit meddlin' thing again.

Nope, meddling won't help. Use the resources in a way to do some good. You can't change people,places and things , especially by meddling.

Lets try no gun laws, no meddlin', and fresher foods with time to fix like the old days, kids riding bikes, parents too, see the BGs won't know whom is packing...see what that does...betcha I'm right?
 
Are we really that freakin' dumb?
Jeez,i never knew that going to a bar and smokin,drinkin was not healthy!You mean pizza is NOT health food?These smokes might hurt me?.......
Boy i'm so glad someone pointed all this out.....
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Too many people with too much time on their hands having access to too much money.

We've go plenty of money to fund this kind of horse pucky yet we don't have sufficient money to equip our grunts with ballistic armor.

Our priorities are wrong.
 
What’s the fuss here? Next you guys will tell me that the chocolate-covered, deep-fried Twinkie I’m eating isn’t good for me. It has grain and dairy products in it. Two of the food groups isn’t good enough?
 
Don't forget a large chocolate coated waffle cone filled with triple fudge cheesecake ice cream with crumbled hershey bars from Coldstone ice cream.
 
I think one of the few legitimate regulations in a free society is honest disclosure.

What kind of oil do they use? Canola or lard?

How many calories in that chicken sammich? 290 or 1200?

Yeah - you may think you can tell, but you could probably make 5 similar burgers with calories from 350 to 2000 and I bet most people could not get close.

Many fast food restaurants do publish their specs if you ask for them and its hardly hurt business.

As for custom orders, they should be exempt because "extra cheese" can mean anything from an extra pinch on your taco to triple cheese on your burger.

If you are a small restaurant, its not that hard to calc based on your type of mayo, dressing, how much of what kind of meat, etc.

Many things we buy are subject to strict content guidelines - I think food is somewhat more fluid do to the inconsistent nature, but you could say "the fried chicken plate has a minimum 120 grams of fat and 1350 calories - +/- 20% based on size and quality of the bird, etc.

In this day and age, it should not be overly difficult.
 
Well, if they were trying to set limits on fat or calories or portion size, I would agree with you.

What they seem to be asking is just that a restaurant disclose exactly what it is they are feeding you.

If they were trying to force restaurants to make 10% of their menu "healthy" or not sell a steak larger than 12oz or not allow real ice cream without a special stamp, then I might agree with you.

As it is, they are just requiring disclosure.

You guys are over reacting.
 
Given that my mother is from the Cajun country, and my Father is half-German, I think that meals at home probably are worse for me than McD's, but whatever. Anyway, I don't think it'll have much effect. People will still eat what they want. It might even have a detrimental effect.

Mind of normal person: "Oh. So that's how many calories it contains. Huh. Oh well. Double cheeseburger with fries to go please."

Mind of person who wants a lot of money: "Okay, here's the fattiest sandwich, two of those, plus three, um, Ultra-Chugg Shakes and seven orders of fries. The sooner I have that heart attack, the sooner I get the lawsuit money!"
 
Pendragon, I'm not overreacting. McDonalds knows probably down to the last gram how much of each ingredient goes into their dishes. Individual restaurants, though, would need to hire a "calorie-counter" full time to figure out what goes into the special of the day.

We here on THR bitch constantly about the minutiae of ATF involvment in our gun rights: barrel must be 18.5", overall length 26", etc. Stuff that shouldn't matter.

What penalties will there be for restaurants that post inaccurate calorie counts? What leeway will they be given? Can they be off by 10%? What about just 1%?

We all know that we cannot be off by any percentage in our barrel lengths, mag capacities, or "evil features."

I'd sure hate for my local "Mama Mia's" to be held to those same strict percentages.

Oh, I just had a terrible vision. Imagine a front-page story about a restaurant being busted for illegal calorie-counts. FDA agents in full ninja suits have a photo-op of tables upon tables of mushrooms, pepperoni, pepperoncini's, Italian sausage, garlic cloves, prosciutto, provalone, parmesan, and even--gasp!--anchovies.

If the FDA goes through with this, we're going to have some more allies on our side complaining about over-reaching federal regulations constructed by unelected bureaucrats. Maybe that isn't such a bad thing.
 
Seems pretty silly to me. Is the idea that people too stupid to know that cheese fries are unhealthy will take the FDA-madated data, do some MATH, and then suddenly realize they should order a salad instead... ?

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Is the idea that people too stupid to know that cheese fries are unhealthy will take the FDA-madated data, do some MATH, and then suddenly realize they should order a salad instead... ?

LOL!

Regarding this being an "Interstate Commerce" issue, unless restaurants are buying all locally gown or raised ingredients, that didn't use feed or fertilizer grown out of state, the fedgov will find that interstate enough to grab the reins. And the courts will probably agree with them.

It's pretty simple: business owners shouldn't be compelled to jump through more hoops than they already do in order to make a living. If I want to know what goes into something on a menu, I can ask.

Sadly, if you want to live anything like a normal life in the US these days, freedom is a myth.
 
Unless the restaurant stradles a state line with the kitchen on one side and the dining area on the other, how is that interstate commerce?

The argument goes that notwithstanding the fact that everything occurs in one state, the effects of that action can and will impact interstate commerce in that increased health problems will prevent you from participating in interstate commerce either directly (travelling or working elsewhere) or indirectly (purchasing products from other states because you can't afford to after paying your medical bills or you simply die). While small, the aggregate effect of thousands of similarly situated people has a clear impact on interstate commerce.

Is there some logic to it? Sure. Is it BS? Absolutely. Is it unconstitutional? Yes, according to the pre-FDR court packing plan Supreme Court. No, according to the "we don't want our power diminished so we'll play again" ninnies and their successors, until fairly recently.
 
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