NYC wants to ban everything!

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This article about an NYC health department proposal to ban trans fats illustrates what gun owners are up against. You could replace the words "trans fats" with "guns" and the logic is the same. Something is bad and there is no reason for you to have it so the gov't is going to protect you from it. So don't worry, this is more proof we are heading closer to a "Demolition Man" type future instead of one like in "1984".

Does anyone remember freedom?

Feel free to lock, but I feel this is about the big picture.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,215983,00.html

NYC Health Department Proposes Ban on Trans Fats

NEW YORK — Three years after the city banned smoking in restaurants, health officials are talking about prohibiting something they say is almost as bad: artificial trans fatty acids.

The city health department unveiled a proposal Tuesday that would bar cooks at any of the city's 24,600 food service establishments from using ingredients that contain the artery-clogging substance, commonly listed on food labels as partially hydrogenated oil.

Artificial trans fats are found in some shortenings, margarine and frying oils and turn up in foods from pie crusts to french fries to doughnuts.

Doctors agree that trans fats are unhealthy in nearly any amount, but a spokesman for the restaurant industry said he was stunned the city would seek to ban a legal ingredient found in millions of American kitchens.

"Labeling is one thing, but when they totally ban a product, it goes well beyond what we think is prudent and acceptable," said Chuck Hunt, executive vice president of the city's chapter of the New York State Restaurant Association.

He said the proposal could create havoc: Cooks would be forced to discard old recipes and scrutinize every ingredient in their pantry. A restaurant could face a fine if an inspector finds the wrong type of vegetable shortening on its shelves.

The proposal also would create a huge problem for national chains. Among the fast foods that would need to get an overhaul or face a ban: McDonald's french fries, Kentucky Fried Chicken and several varieties of Dunkin' Donuts.

Health Commissioner Thomas Frieden acknowledged that the ban would be a challenge for restaurants, but he said trans fats can easily be replaced with substitute oils that taste the same or better and are far less unhealthy.

"It is a dangerous and unnecessary ingredient," Frieden said. "No one will miss it when it's gone."

A similar ban on trans fats in restaurant food has been proposed in Chicago and is still under consideration, although it has been ridiculed by some as unnecessary government meddling.

The latest version of the Chicago plan would only apply to companies with annual revenues of more than $20 million, a provision aimed exclusively at fast-food giants.

A few companies have moved to eliminate trans fats on their own.

Wendy's announced in August that it had switched to a new cooking oil that contains no trans fatty acids. Crisco now sells a shortening that contains zero trans fats. Frito-Lay removed trans fats from its Doritos and Cheetos. Kraft's took trans fats out of Oreos.

McDonald's began using a trans fat-free cooking oil in Denmark after that country banned artificial trans fats in processed food, but it has yet to do so in the United States.

Walt Riker, vice president of corporate communications at McDonald's, said in a statement Tuesday that the company would review New York's proposal.

"McDonald's knows this is an important issue, which is why we continue to test in earnest to find ways to further reduce (trans fatty acid) levels," he said.

New York's health department had asked restaurants to impose a voluntary ban last year but found use of trans fats unchanged in recent surveys.

Under the New York proposal, restaurants would need to get artificial trans fats out of cooking oils, margarine and shortening by July 1, 2007, and all other foodstuffs by July 1, 2008. It would not affect grocery stores. It also would not apply to naturally occurring trans fats, which are found in some meats and dairy.

The Board of Health has yet to approve the proposal and will not do so until at least December, Frieden said.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration began requiring food labels to list trans fats in January.

Dr. Walter Willett, chairman of the Department of Nutrition at the Harvard University School of Public Health, praised New York health officials for considering a ban, which he said could save lives.

"Artificial trans fats are very toxic, and they almost surely causes tens of thousands of premature deaths each year," he said. "The federal government should have done this long ago."
 
How on earth did human beings survive for so long without the government making every decision for them?
 
Another example of the government trying to protect us from ourselves; even liberals would have to agree that our founding fathers would not have done such a thing as stupid as that. At least when it comes to guns you can see that they want to ban them because they're 'scary' (I'm not saying that taking our guns isn't extreme, but it's how they look at it.) But trans fat? That's down right communist (and so is taking our guns!)
 
Wait a minute. I am overweight and love fast food. Does that mean that I can get rich by sueing fast food joints since they obvioulsy have a duty to care of my health? Funny, I thought I was responsible for my own health.

Seiously, this reminds me of a story I read about a woman wanting to sue a cereal manufacturor because their cereal labeled "low sugar" led her to believe it was a health food.

Link to story: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Health/story?id=625559

I have to say that I am getting sick and tired of this lack of responability that is infesting society.
 
If I want to eat a double-Whopper with extra trans-fat in my fries, that's my own damn perogative :fire:

I'm not fat, I like McD's fries! I don't want them changed!

Thank god I'm not in NYC or Chicago. I do fine without a nanny, thank you very much. Pass the pork rinds and ammunition.
 
Huh, makes you wonder, if the terrorists really hate our freedom, why didn't they attack someplace like montana? No one is free in new york.
 
IBTL! IBTL! (in before the lock)

Why not just make it parallel to the whole MSG issue? If folks get upset about it, certain shops will put little "NO TRANS FATS" signs in the window, and people can patronize those shops.

The whole MSG scare happened back before I can remember, and to this day it seems like most Chinese restaurants still have "NO MSG" signs in the window, and written at the bottom of the menu. I couldn't care one way or the other, if MSG tastes good I'll eat it. But it's good to be aware of your options.

Let Mr Smith's Invisible Hand do its work.

-MV
 
The irony of the whole thing is that the tofu gulping Stalinists at The Center for Science in the Public Interest (sic) are the ones directly responsible for pushing restaurants to switch from frying stuff in lard to frying stuff in vegetable oil back in the 1980's.

These guys, and the politicians that advocate their extremist positions, are the VPC of food.
 
Don't forget chicago's recent ban on foie gras. It does sadden me a little how personal choice and responsibility doesn't seem to matter to many people any more. We all need to go to NYC and have a sit in at a bar. Open carrying, drinking alcohol, eating foods fried in hydrogenated oils, eating a big plate of foie gras, running with scissors, playing with darts, and frying bacon nude.
 
CRY FRENCH FRIES!!!

...er, I mean Freedom.

Well, they pretty much banned guns, now they're worried about people 'eating' themselves to death. NYC a communist paradise.

I :cuss: NY
 
Hey Slurp,

I've got 1200 posts and you're just now noticing that I'm quoting you ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Thanks for paying attention. :D :scrutiny: :p :rolleyes:


The whole foie gras ban in Chicago has done more for it's sales then any marketing campaign could have ever hoped for. Restaurants are openly flaunting it, just daring someone to come and arrest them. It was "feel good" legislation to make the mean people stop hurting animals, and a small step forward for PETA, et al. in their war on the human race.
 
I believe that eventually everything will be banned, and we will all be licensed. I mean licensed to live, "For our protection" and such. Just think, mandatory computer chips for all.
 
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