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It looks to me as if the Feds are tracking gun ownership en mass. It may not be everyone, but it's clearly in the millions.
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I came across this wired article that discusses what guns the fed's do and don't track. Here's the good news:
Here's David Hardy's writeup on the Firearm Owners Protection Act.
Bad news #1: The Terrorist Laws
In 2009 there were a million names on the terrorist watch list. I have no clue how many people are on it now. At last check it was growing by 20,000 people a month.
Source:
ACLU
USA Today
Bad news #2: The "Border" Laws - Tracking People that buy 2+ guns in 5 days
The National Association for Gun rights says:
The house passed a bill to block ATF using this power outside of those four states (see NRA-ILA) but I don't know what happened with it in the Senate or if Obama signed it.
What I do know is this one died:
Anyone got a good grasp of what is going on? How many people they are tracking?
It looks to me as if the Feds are tracking gun ownership en mass. It may not be everyone, but it's clearly in the millions.
Full details:
I came across this wired article that discusses what guns the fed's do and don't track. Here's the good news:
The Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986 prohibits the feds from maintaining one. But there are a few exceptions that give law enforcement and intelligence and counterterrorism agents some visibility into private small-arms stockpiles.
Here's David Hardy's writeup on the Firearm Owners Protection Act.
Bad news #1: The Terrorist Laws
First, when someone seeks to buy a gun or rifle from a licensed gun dealer, federally mandated background checks will pick up if the suspected purchaser is on a terrorism watchlist. If so, his or her name will get sent to the FBI’s Terrorist Screening Center. ..... the purchaser won’t know that his name resides in the data banks at the Terrorist Screening Center. However, people on terror watchlists can buy guns.
In 2009 there were a million names on the terrorist watch list. I have no clue how many people are on it now. At last check it was growing by 20,000 people a month.
Source:
ACLU
USA Today
Bad news #2: The "Border" Laws - Tracking People that buy 2+ guns in 5 days
Someone seeking to buy two or more of certain kinds of rifles — semi-automatics; calibers higher than .22; detachable magazines — will attract the attention of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) along four southwest states bordering Mexico. So will someone who tries to buy two or more handguns within five days, wherever the sale occurs. The ATF can retain information on those individuals for up to two years, if there’s no active investigation resulting from it.
The National Association for Gun rights says:
Although the BATFE claims that this requirement only applies to states along the southern border, the actual published rule has no geographic limitation. ... That means they’re tracking the sale of shotguns and rifles across the country.
The house passed a bill to block ATF using this power outside of those four states (see NRA-ILA) but I don't know what happened with it in the Senate or if Obama signed it.
What I do know is this one died:
On march Mar 14, 2011
S. 570 (112th): A bill to prohibit the Department of Justice from tracking and cataloguing the purchases of multiple rifles ...
Anyone got a good grasp of what is going on? How many people they are tracking?
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