axeman_g
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I think gunsmith... they are dying out and nobody goes into the field. There is plenty of work from local shops, or with a manufacturer, or even local le.
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Do like I did join the military become a MP (military police), get a criminal justice degree with an emphasis in crime scene photography, go to the Missouri State Highway Patrol, figure out really fast that is not what you want to do. Become a Heavy Equipment operator make more money buy more guns!!!
The military does have civilian jobs such as small arms repairer, which is just an armor, but without any military experience you will be at the bottom of the hiring list. When you apply for a civilian job in the military they look at your resume and assign points based on what your experience is. Military veterans, disabled veterans and Vietnam veterans are given preference, just like if you applied for a job at the post office. Unless you can prove that you know more about a position or can make a really good resume you more than likely will not get a civilian military job. But what do I know I only applied for a security guard job at the local military base for 2 years and was never even called in for an interview. Is anyone still reading this or have you all fallen asleep at the keyboard or moved onto the next posting?
The military does have civilian jobs such as small arms repairer, which is just an armor, but without any military experience you will be at the bottom of the hiring list. When you apply for a civilian job in the military they look at your resume and assign points based on what your experience is. Military veterans, disabled veterans and Vietnam veterans are given preference, just like if you applied for a job at the post office. Unless you can prove that you know more about a position or can make a really good resume you more than likely will not get a civilian military job. But what do I know I only applied for a security guard job at the local military base for 2 years and was never even called in for an interview. Is anyone still reading this or have you all fallen asleep at the keyboard or moved onto the next posting?
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Crack dealer?
Duke of Doubt
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Rob P.: "Professional jobs are things like ... Attorney (FBI agent's are usually atty's too."
I've met precisely one former FBI Agent who also is a former attorney. He is, in addition to his other qualifications, a convicted felon. His name is G. Gordon Liddy. He rocks, too.
I've met precisely one former FBI Agent who also is a former attorney. He is, in addition to his other qualifications, a convicted felon. His name is G. Gordon Liddy. He rocks, too.
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I think prior to the 1980's a law degree was a prerequisite for an agent. Back 77/78 my grandfathers cousin had just retired as head of the Chicago office and since I was interested at the time said I would need to have the law degree.
I'm pretty sure it still requires a 4yr degree.
I'm pretty sure it still requires a 4yr degree.
um, well i am currently a sophomore in college, working on a Mechanical Engineering degree at SMU. we recently renovated one of our old buildings, and the basement of the new building is sponsored by Lockheed-Martin, and is supposed to be a sort of lab for one of their development programs, Skunkworks, that will work with SMU students. this is the group that brought you the P-38 Lightning, U-2, the iconic F-117 Nighthawk, the F-22 Raptor, and much more.
While this isnt exactly firearms specifically, it is related and is a field that could im sure be pretty easily applied to some kind of job with firearms, be it smithing or weapons design after you move on.
The only problem you'll run into with RnD is Obama's huge cuts to govt spending into RnD
outside of that, mechanical engineering covers all sorts of fields and all types of jobs, its a pretty rainbow of a major. you could easily find work in automotives, aircraft, industrial equipment, heating/cooling systems, etc.
While this isnt exactly firearms specifically, it is related and is a field that could im sure be pretty easily applied to some kind of job with firearms, be it smithing or weapons design after you move on.
The only problem you'll run into with RnD is Obama's huge cuts to govt spending into RnD
outside of that, mechanical engineering covers all sorts of fields and all types of jobs, its a pretty rainbow of a major. you could easily find work in automotives, aircraft, industrial equipment, heating/cooling systems, etc.
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Learning a lot about firearms will make you a very valuable individual for a multitude of other positions..
and when I say a lot about firearms, I mean you need to know how to -
Calculate in atleast 3 different ways - distance
calculate velocity in as many different ways as you can, including reading the labels on ammo boxes
calculate the weights of various different objects
Use these skills to calculate where the bullet will hit, at what time, and what was the path it took during flight?
How high (or low) was it at 25 yards when you were shooting at 200 yards?
Take firearms apart, not just one, not just the ones you own, but all you encounter. This builds a problem solving aspect, and improves observational skills, in the event you were actually trying to improve and not blindly observing a series of events you don't actively try to understand.
Get good at this, and you can assemble anything. It's all the same stuff, from guns to drills to computers and cell phones. The same skills for detail stripping/modifying firearms are used for most everything else.
Learning about firearms teaches you how to learn about other subjects. Become awesome at learning facts about firearms, how they function, why they're made, etc etc and you'll notice that in other, similar subjects you are just as awesome there too.
Become good at the logistical aspect of firearms, too. Positioning and placement of your firearm for ready access during various different activities, such as crawling, rolling, resting in inopportune positions, etc. These skills you develop by making the way you carry your firearm comfortably while maximizing your desired results is obviously invaluable for everyday tasks such as driving, walking, etc etc, as well as branching into deeper aspects of your gear, such as your boots.. You'll have a more keen sense of what kind of boot you actually need, and the labels on boots and other products are moreso irrelevant than ever before. You'll no longer look for the most convincing "This is best" tag, but instead have a built in knowledge bank ready for valid and accurate assessment of a product's quality including strengths and weaknesses.
My goal is to -
use other jobs to fund a personal manufacturing facility for prototype firearms and other tools which I then prepare to manufacture on a large scale as a career.
It's my opinion that the firearms industry is terribly mismanaged, and is stagnant. My goal is to replace as many of the current manufacturing trends as possible. Which bearing witness will reveal, these trends produce a large amount of incomplete or failed products. My intent is to make the manufacturing process also the quality control aspect. This is a difficult procedure to create, but its implementation should be fairly straight forward. I, however, do not ever want to hear of my product being anything less than perfect. The need for an automated QC process that can produce identical copies is necessary because the alternative involves a person performing his own inspection and refining from there. Humans make mistakes. That's unacceptable to me.
From there, I will make a more convenient, and trustworthy firearm for the roughest conditions this world has to offer.
You can feel what I'm talking about.. Think about the rangers and their carbines. Do you think they whined about them as much as we do with our AR-15s and reproduction 1911s with bells and whistles and a list of malfunctions that, if streamed from a printer and each owner got a chance to add his own complaint, and assuming the printer was a mesh of newspaper presses and an integrated instant-action notepad feature to instantly record these complaints, then maybe we could expect 1500 words per page, at a rate of 10 miles per minute.
A lot of complaints, my friend.
Here's your firearms related job. Fix the poor image by fixing the entire way you do business. This will create jobs that you want to do.
and when I say a lot about firearms, I mean you need to know how to -
Calculate in atleast 3 different ways - distance
calculate velocity in as many different ways as you can, including reading the labels on ammo boxes
calculate the weights of various different objects
Use these skills to calculate where the bullet will hit, at what time, and what was the path it took during flight?
How high (or low) was it at 25 yards when you were shooting at 200 yards?
Take firearms apart, not just one, not just the ones you own, but all you encounter. This builds a problem solving aspect, and improves observational skills, in the event you were actually trying to improve and not blindly observing a series of events you don't actively try to understand.
Get good at this, and you can assemble anything. It's all the same stuff, from guns to drills to computers and cell phones. The same skills for detail stripping/modifying firearms are used for most everything else.
Learning about firearms teaches you how to learn about other subjects. Become awesome at learning facts about firearms, how they function, why they're made, etc etc and you'll notice that in other, similar subjects you are just as awesome there too.
Become good at the logistical aspect of firearms, too. Positioning and placement of your firearm for ready access during various different activities, such as crawling, rolling, resting in inopportune positions, etc. These skills you develop by making the way you carry your firearm comfortably while maximizing your desired results is obviously invaluable for everyday tasks such as driving, walking, etc etc, as well as branching into deeper aspects of your gear, such as your boots.. You'll have a more keen sense of what kind of boot you actually need, and the labels on boots and other products are moreso irrelevant than ever before. You'll no longer look for the most convincing "This is best" tag, but instead have a built in knowledge bank ready for valid and accurate assessment of a product's quality including strengths and weaknesses.
My goal is to -
use other jobs to fund a personal manufacturing facility for prototype firearms and other tools which I then prepare to manufacture on a large scale as a career.
It's my opinion that the firearms industry is terribly mismanaged, and is stagnant. My goal is to replace as many of the current manufacturing trends as possible. Which bearing witness will reveal, these trends produce a large amount of incomplete or failed products. My intent is to make the manufacturing process also the quality control aspect. This is a difficult procedure to create, but its implementation should be fairly straight forward. I, however, do not ever want to hear of my product being anything less than perfect. The need for an automated QC process that can produce identical copies is necessary because the alternative involves a person performing his own inspection and refining from there. Humans make mistakes. That's unacceptable to me.
From there, I will make a more convenient, and trustworthy firearm for the roughest conditions this world has to offer.
You can feel what I'm talking about.. Think about the rangers and their carbines. Do you think they whined about them as much as we do with our AR-15s and reproduction 1911s with bells and whistles and a list of malfunctions that, if streamed from a printer and each owner got a chance to add his own complaint, and assuming the printer was a mesh of newspaper presses and an integrated instant-action notepad feature to instantly record these complaints, then maybe we could expect 1500 words per page, at a rate of 10 miles per minute.
A lot of complaints, my friend.
Here's your firearms related job. Fix the poor image by fixing the entire way you do business. This will create jobs that you want to do.
MT GUNNY
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I make The Business End of Guns at a Local Barrel manufacturer.
KBintheSLC
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LOL!!!
Under the current leadership, there are probably a lot of those jobs popping up in the socialist-urbanite nesting holes.
No degree required.
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Actually dealers can be some of the smartest people on the planet. You need to know quite a bit of math and chemisty to know how to properly make and cut any various drug for the most/least potency or adictablity and highest profit. This comes from my math professor lol
DeepSouth
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Call some manufacturers that have a "Custom Shop" and tell them your situation, ask them what they would look for in a shop smith, ask them if they would recommend (off the record) any particular "smith school." Just talk to them and get as much info as you can about what they want in an employee. Don't cal one shop and be done, call several, some will probably try to blow you off, others will likely be helpful, not to mention you will get several different points of view. You might also call the NRA they may have some kind of help to offer, if your a member.
I don't know a lot about custom shops, I do know Springfield Armory has one, and Kimber, Cooper Firearms of Montana, Cylinder and Slide, Dakota Arms I think has a custom shop. You can find them if you try.
And most importantly, keep your butt out of trouble. You will never get a job handling a firearm if you have a criminal record with more than a speeding ticket on it. You can take that to the bank.
GOOD LUCK
DeepSouth
I don't know a lot about custom shops, I do know Springfield Armory has one, and Kimber, Cooper Firearms of Montana, Cylinder and Slide, Dakota Arms I think has a custom shop. You can find them if you try.
And most importantly, keep your butt out of trouble. You will never get a job handling a firearm if you have a criminal record with more than a speeding ticket on it. You can take that to the bank.
GOOD LUCK
DeepSouth
Basically very few people are happy at what the do, give them a few drinks and they will tell you, it's just human nature, doctors wish they were boxers, boxers wish they would have gone to school after turning 30, very few people are happy with what they do. I thought that because I enjoyed working out, 7days a week, that owning a gym would be fun. That was the worse idea I ever had, I haven't set foot in a gym since I sold it in 2000, after 5 years of boring work, chasing deadbeats for money and trying to make enough to pay the bills.Work is work, if you have to do something every day, it no longer becomes fun to do. Keep shooting as a leisure activity and you may enjoy it for many years to come. That's the best advise I can give.
mcdonl
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Be a lawyer. Protect out 2nd amendment rights.
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jakk280rem
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how about journalist? i always thought it would be cool to write for a gun rag. free test guns, free ammo, free hunting trips. sounds good to me.
or a news journalist. actualy lend some credibility to the profession.
politician. decent money, great benefits. defend feedoms, and enact legeslation to broaden them.
mechanical engineer was mentioned, but modern firearms wouldn't be what they are today whithout a chemical engineer.
interior or exterior ballistition, statatition, public relations (think cooper firearms), metalurgist.
thats all i got for now. just about any major field can put you in contact with a nice paycheck and firearms, art, science, sociology, engineering, mathmatics and public service.
or a news journalist. actualy lend some credibility to the profession.
politician. decent money, great benefits. defend feedoms, and enact legeslation to broaden them.
mechanical engineer was mentioned, but modern firearms wouldn't be what they are today whithout a chemical engineer.
interior or exterior ballistition, statatition, public relations (think cooper firearms), metalurgist.
thats all i got for now. just about any major field can put you in contact with a nice paycheck and firearms, art, science, sociology, engineering, mathmatics and public service.
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Thanks you guys for all your ideas and support, and you don't have to worry I'm not going to work at the ATF
SpecialKalltheway
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how are your rhyming skillz? you should become a rapper!
bukijin
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Jobs that require you to carry a firearm do so for a reason. They involve putting yourself in harm's way on behalf of others. It's not about the gun per se - it's just a tool - but there is always the possibility of being killed at work.
It might be better to get a good job that allows you to buy firearms and the leisure time to enjoy your hobby. Especially if you live in a juristiction that allows CCW.
It might be better to get a good job that allows you to buy firearms and the leisure time to enjoy your hobby. Especially if you live in a juristiction that allows CCW.
shooter429
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Are you an adrenaline junkie?
If so, careers that put a gun on your hip or shoulder might be more satisfying. If you don't want combat experience, I would think you could make a part time living as a custom smith (lots of guys want race guns and are willing to pay). Or in sales or get n FFL and start a business of your own. Buy sell, trade fix, teach, you could teach people to reload. Or, if you are good enough, you might get sponsored like JM.
I assume you have taken all of your math, CAD, metal shop etc. classes. That should give you a foundation for an engineering degree, I would think, if design is more what you have in mind. A background in electronics, might be a good idea, given the trend toward electronic ignitions, owner recognition etc.
But I don't work in the biz, just a hobbyist, so I can only speculate.
Shooter429
If so, careers that put a gun on your hip or shoulder might be more satisfying. If you don't want combat experience, I would think you could make a part time living as a custom smith (lots of guys want race guns and are willing to pay). Or in sales or get n FFL and start a business of your own. Buy sell, trade fix, teach, you could teach people to reload. Or, if you are good enough, you might get sponsored like JM.
I assume you have taken all of your math, CAD, metal shop etc. classes. That should give you a foundation for an engineering degree, I would think, if design is more what you have in mind. A background in electronics, might be a good idea, given the trend toward electronic ignitions, owner recognition etc.
But I don't work in the biz, just a hobbyist, so I can only speculate.
Shooter429
JImbothefiveth
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I'd say that some might not be around forever. If AR's are banned, there goes your work at Armalite, while working for Ruger would be more stable. Some might also be bad for you, such as applying blueing
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