Girl or Gun

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Has the OP even bothered to check in to view the plethora of advice he's garnered thus far (sorry, I had to stop reading after about five pages or so)? Nine pages and counting ...

Sigh. If one has to solicit relationship advice on the internet, t'would seem a pretty clear indication that one is not committed enough to continue the relationship anyway -- regardless of the issues involved.

We sure seem to see many variations on this question every month or so, don't we? "My guns or the girl?"

Do dog websites have guys telling the world that their current flings don't like their dogs? ("They're too big ... too vicious ... too stinky ... too dirty ...")

How 'bout car websites? "My new girlfriend thinks big trucks waste too much gasoline, create too much pollution, are detrimental to the environment and present a bad image of me. She wants me to sell my truck and drive a Cooper Mini or a VW Jetta ..."
 
Girl or guns

Maybe its' time for her to make a decision...you were like this when she found you. Why should you have to change? I think it may be time for her to do some accepance drills. Its' not about your collection, its' about who you are; I don't think you could give up the collection without parting with a significant piece of yourself; your integrity. If you did, I doubt if she'd still want you anyway (and if she did...). I'm sure you wouldn't like yourself much.
Cheers, TF
 
i see nothing wrong with a fellow gunny (male or female, straight or vegisexual or otherwise) soliciting input from like-minded individuals on this topic.

it's not like we're all trying to make up the poster's mind on the subject. we are only offering our own opinions, which he may or may not take with a bucket of salt.

hell, judging by the responses on this thread, it looks like THR can be one heck of a support group. LOL.
 
WEll.. first, I need to know, IS SHE HOT??

But seriously, my number one rule of dating, is

1.) Never date someone thinking you can change them. Date them for who they are. If something bothers you that much, find someone new. You make them change, they won't be happy and neither will you.

The number 2 rule if you're wondering is NEVER date someone you work with.
 
Do dog websites have guys telling the world that their current flings don't like their dogs? ("They're too big ... too vicious ... too stinky ... too dirty ...") How 'bout car websites?
Well now you've gone too far. The little princess may talk me out of a gun or two. And even have my 1998 jeep wrangler crushed. But there is no way some skank will ever talk me out of my hunting dog "Wilbur"
 
Buck Nekkid
Someone needs to teach her the 4 rules:eek:
I don't want a girl with such poor safety skills.
If she can't keep her finger off the trigger who knows what else she'll forget to do or take :neener:that will get us both in a bunch of trouble.:fire:

**ten pages of basically the same type of response...
I'm sure the OP will read it all, and then make an informed decision :rolleyes:
 
Do dog websites have guys telling the world that their current flings don't like their dogs? ("They're too big ... too vicious ... too stinky ... too dirty ...")

How 'bout car websites? "My new girlfriend thinks big trucks waste too much gasoline, create too much pollution, are detrimental to the environment and present a bad image of me. She wants me to sell my truck and drive a Cooper Mini or a VW Jetta ..."

Actually, yes, this does come up fairly often on one of the horse discussion forums I frequent, and usually the girlfriend is the one asking the question. "My boyfriend hates my horse and says I spend too much time at the barn and it costs me too much money. He thinks I should get rid of it. What should I do?" The boyfriend invariably gets the boot!
 
Bubbles, LOL! Takes me back to my childhood in CT, where there are two kinds of people: horsey people and peasants. Girls in jodhpurs walking bow-legged--that was my childhood.
 
Actually, yes, this does come up fairly often on one of the horse discussion forums I frequent, and usually the girlfriend is the one asking the question. "My boyfriend hates my horse and says I spend too much time at the barn and it costs me too much money. He thinks I should get rid of it. What should I do?" The boyfriend invariably gets the boot!

Describes my marriage exactly -- except the horses are mine. My wife got revenge by buying a couple of donkeys.
 
Tell her that if she can't learn to accept them, she'll have a really, really hard time living with you, and that she needs to decide if she wants to let fear stand in the way of your relationship.

It's HER problem, not yours.
 
Look on the bright side Vern H. now you can have mules!!!

I'm backwards from what Bubbles said, I want to sell my VW to get a truck. Partially just to piss off Al Gore.
 
First, I admit I didn't read the entire thread. I read the OP and the first page. I am new here so have not figured out how to quote what I wanted to quote as well.

To the OP:

I am also a woman and in the past I had a huge fear of handguns. It took me a while to over come it but I only over came it because I wanted to. For a long time I practically relished and fed into my fear of guns.

What got me out of it was the some hard examination of why I was afraid. I work in a field where I interact with potentially dangerous people in the community but I did not have any means of self defense. (And no, I do not think martial arts is the answer for an 5'1" woman with a bad back!)

I analyzed why I was afraid and I had a specfic childhood event that was the cause. I worked through that event and was able to put it behind me. Other people I know are afraid of guns too but have not had a childhood trauma related to one. I have the firm conviction that they are afriad of guns in the hands of criminals far more then in the hands of good people like you.

There is also a lot of propaganda out there about how guns lead to deaths of children, blah blah... Sure it happens, but more children die in family pools then via a gun in the home. However so many people buy into that.

My suggestion is that you let your girlfriend know you are really into her and having thoughts of the future but before you can move forward she needs to try to overcome this fear of guns. Take her to a quiet outdoor gun range and have her target shoot a .22 that fits her hand. Make a game or competition out of it. Then pay for a CCW class... ask her to just go to it and learn about gun safety at it. Besides the CCW class I took taught a lot about home safety in general.

Then put the ball in her court. If she wants a relationship with you she needs to accept you and your shooting sport interests. You should not give up something you really are into for her. And, she can overcome this fear is she tries.
 
Bandit01 has not posted so I guess we can start speculating as to why.

? She will not let him use gun forums now.

? He has gone shopping with her AGAIN

? He is out at the gun range looking for another girl

I hope it is the latter and not the former.

I have been there, made my choice.
Still have my guns.

FuzzyBunny
 
My two cents:

Alot of people are afraid of guns and believe all anti-gun propaganda becuase they are uneducated in firearms.
If I were you buddy, I would take her out to the range for a day. Don't surprise her, but get in the conversation with her about guns. She's going to tell you she's scared, doesn't like them, hates them, etc. You can start telling her that shooting isn't meant just for killing, but rather a hobbie. Proper gun safety exists and when followed, no one gets hurt. If she really cares about you, she'll make the effort to goto the range to 'open' her mind about the whole firearms issue.
If it don't work after that, as in she didn't have fun at all, then chances are she will not change.

All the girls that I've brought home and started to date were curious about my firearms. In the end they all wanted to goto the range and give it a shot, most of the time it turned out good.
 
Responding to bubbles coments I once had known a girl when we first started
dating i took my k-9 to the park to meet her,she saw my k-9 and told me if we get married you will have to get rid of that dog,Well that was the last i heard from her,i even had tryed to take her to k-9 class where she could see
the traning my k-9 got,she could not take him flying threw the air and hitting
the decoy person.When he barked and held the bad guy in the blines she told me Never,i will give him to the pound(i knew then it was over) I told my instructor :She not comming back with me,He told me he could tell from her body language that she was not into this.Well i just said this to say Don't beat yourself up over this,try to take her to the range,explain to her about guns,find out about her fears,if she does not change,then you know what to do.(1) Find someone who will love you for????You.
 
Responding to bubbles coments I once had known a girl when we first started
dating i took my k-9 to the park to meet her,she saw my k-9 and told me if we get married you will have to get rid of that dog

I take it that you are LEO or work for a REALLY good security outfit....

So, she says a K9--an assigned working dog--and says you'll have to get rid of it???

You ducked a bullet on that one, fella!
 
Yea powder man thats what she said get rid of my partner.(was this girl on drugs) I mean the nerves of a woman asking a man to give up something he trained feeds,make sure his rabeeies shot are up to date,raised from a pup.
spent lots of money on.
 
With no disrespect intended,
I haven't read any
of the posts in this thread.

"Girl OR gun" isn't a relevant question.

But if you must ask,
the answer is simply ...

... Both!

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Ok, I read through the first page and couldn't figure out where the other pages may be going, but it looks like most everything was said on the first page, but I'll give you my take on it anyway.

I doubt it is about control, she probably wants to know you care and asking you to make a sacrifice to make her feel better will give her that reassurance.

Until the emotion wears off

Then she will realize that you really didn't care about her, you were just trying to make her happy.

This will cause resentment and many major problems down the road.

If you are up to the challenge, do something that will make her safer.

Offer to help her overcome her fear of guns.

In the long run, she will love you more for it, because you didn't act based on her feelings, you acted to make her stronger.

You didn't lower yourself to her level, you reached down a hand and lifter her up to yours.

And in the end, me thinks this is what women are looking for, a knight in shining armor to fight alongside them

You to be the strength in her weakness, and for her to be the strength in yours.

Damsels in distress are for good for saving, but make horrible wives.

I don't know about you, but this Knight in Shining Armor won't be satisfied until he finds his Warrior Princess to stand beside.

Choice is yours, weak woman, or strong one.
 
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