Originally Posted by RichieV:
I understand what you guys are saying, but the point wasn't actually about the Glock or the HiPoint, it was more about the value of training.
Then why not ask: What value is there in training?
I guess it didn't occur to me at the time
But your question had me thinking about what I asked in the original post. In terms of a Glock vs. a HiPoint, what *is* the value of training? Is it more valuable than the advantages that a Glock has over a HiPoint?
First off, despite the prejudices, a HiPoint, from many reports here and elsewhere, is *not* a junk weapon. It seems to be reliable and accurate and capable. However, I think most can agree that in a side-by-side comparison, a Glock is a better weapon than a HiPoint in many ways:
Glock's Advantages Over HiPoint
- weight
- concealability
- ergonomics
- availability of after-market parts
- capacity of rounds
HiPoint's Advantages Over Glock
Of course there are a few arguable qualities where personal preference comes into play such as which gun is better looking, manual safety or not, made in the USA or not, etc. Also, I don't know which one wins out in the question of durability...I think Glock but I really don't know.
Still, side-by-side, it's a no brainer...Glock beats HiPoint.
But, without the benefit of training, many of those advantages are worthless. Does concealability matter if your idea of concealment is Mexican carry? Do ergonomics matter if your idea of a two handed grip is cup and saucering? Does capacity matter if you don't know how to hit your target? Does any of that matter if you don't know how to retain your weapon? Or shoot yourself because you don't know how to present your weapon safely?
A decent training course should address all that. So if you are new gun user and your means are limited, and if the price advantage of a HiPoint allows you to take a quality training course whereas if you purchase a Glock you can *not* take a training course, I say take the lesser gun alongside the training.
--Richard