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Cheap, tough? Soviet surplus. Take your pick. Nothing more than $250, all will outlast you. Pick a Makarov, and it'll probably outlast your grandchildren.
Good, tough, inexpensive truck/ranch gun?
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mortablunt
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Handgun: Hi Point, Makarov
Rifle: Mosin-Nagant M91/30, M1 Carbine
If you pick a Com Bloc gun, it will probably still be firing into the twenty-third century.
Rifle: Mosin-Nagant M91/30, M1 Carbine
If you pick a Com Bloc gun, it will probably still be firing into the twenty-third century.
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I'm not sure exactly what the op was referring to, but around here a ranch gun could be used anywhere from shooting predators such as coyotes that are harassing livestock, putting down sick or wounded livestock, personal defense, shooting wild hogs that are destroying your ranch, and spreading diseases, and countless other scenarios.
When I think of a ranch rifle, I think of a cheap rifle, that you don't mind leaving in the back seat of the truck to get scratched and dented up. It should have enough power and range to handle any of the above scenarios, and it should allow quick follow up shots.
Rusty Luck
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That's pretty much what I had in mind. But a "ranch gun" is something tough and reliable that you don't mind getting messed up, usually something big enough to stop a rabid hog or a person adamant on harming you.
T Bran
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Hipoint carbine or pistol but i'd take the carbine pick a caliber you like 9mm-40sw-45auto.
200.00 option for you brand new with a lifetime warranty. One of the few great uses for these guns if it gets beat up or goes missing no big deal. The best inexpensive option I know of.
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200.00 option for you brand new with a lifetime warranty. One of the few great uses for these guns if it gets beat up or goes missing no big deal. The best inexpensive option I know of.
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jehicks87
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41 is totally on the money with what I consider a "ranch gun."
rifle - a marlin 336 or win 94 in 30-30 caliber and factory ammo. just slip it in the scabbard of your truck seat cover or hang it in the gun rack.
pistol - a ruger vaquero in 45lc and factory ammo. put it wherever it is legal to carry.
murf
pistol - a ruger vaquero in 45lc and factory ammo. put it wherever it is legal to carry.
murf
Back in the seventies, mine was a pre-64 Winchester model 70 featherweight in .243 win and a 4X scope. Little did I know back then just what I had...
The military took me away from the farm, and I grew fond of pistols. Then it changed to a Colt Double Eagle .45, and now is a XD9 subcompact and a Voere Titan II in .243 win. (I like the set triggers with a 4-12 power Lisenfeld scope= the eyes aren't what they once were).
The military took me away from the farm, and I grew fond of pistols. Then it changed to a Colt Double Eagle .45, and now is a XD9 subcompact and a Voere Titan II in .243 win. (I like the set triggers with a 4-12 power Lisenfeld scope= the eyes aren't what they once were).
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shiftyer1
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I revolver of at least .357 caliber or higher, with at least a 4 inch barrel if not 6". The taurus version of the s&W 686 would fit this role in .357 would work well. The cheap auto's would also do well if you wanna be more cityfied
I prefer a longgun in the truck, actually 2. A win 94 30-30 and a .22 rifle, I have been considering adding a handgun.
I prefer a longgun in the truck, actually 2. A win 94 30-30 and a .22 rifle, I have been considering adding a handgun.
Shadow 7D
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huh, it's all the same.... 9x19 is 9mm is 9 NATO etc.
there isn't a 'different standard' as much as a MUCH DIFFERENT SYSTEM between SAAMI and CIP that doesn't cross and even with the formulas, has a margin of error
POINT IS, other than the cheap ammo, thats loaded light because it's cheaper to save a few pennies a round, on a few million rounds.
As for any gun, I'd find something I liked and was priced right, cause it's going to be abused, and get dinged up.
there isn't a 'different standard' as much as a MUCH DIFFERENT SYSTEM between SAAMI and CIP that doesn't cross and even with the formulas, has a margin of error
POINT IS, other than the cheap ammo, thats loaded light because it's cheaper to save a few pennies a round, on a few million rounds.
As for any gun, I'd find something I liked and was priced right, cause it's going to be abused, and get dinged up.
PT92
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For a truck type gun only:
Handgun: HiPoint
Shotgun: 18.5'' Maverick 88
Rifle/Carbine: Kel-Tec Sub2K or HiPoint 9/45 carbine
All great choices (obviously countless others suggested above).
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Handgun: HiPoint
Shotgun: 18.5'' Maverick 88
Rifle/Carbine: Kel-Tec Sub2K or HiPoint 9/45 carbine
All great choices (obviously countless others suggested above).
-Cheers
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RNB65
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GP 100. The Sherman Tank of handguns. Hard to beat that as a general purpose, do anything handgun.
PT92
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Agreed that it's hard to beat that gun straight-up. But inexpensive is not an adjective that I would use in the same sentence with the GP 100.
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fatcat4620
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I love how inexpensive to some people is 400-700 dollars. Get a used hi-point or if your ballin get a used ruger P-95 for $250. Oh and dont try to flame me. When you can get a glock for 500 bucks inexpensive does not mean a .357 rifle and matching wheel gun.
T Bran
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As long as you dont use anything that is not easily replacable you will do fine. The tough part is that you will be doing most of your shooting with a gun that by description is not one of your favorites. You would not treat the guns that you really like this way which makes it a tough decision. See if you can find a gun that is either inexpensive new or a used one of higher quality that already shows some cosmetic damage but is mechanically sound. Also dont overlook the cost of ammo get something common or something you can load for inexpensively.
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T Bran
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I think that gets to the heart of the problem. When you find that a gun is reliable and accurate it becomes a farorite and thus no longer a beater. Kind of a catch 22 type problem.
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My DSW has been carrying a Kel-tec P11 in the console, of her truck for the 10 or 12 years. It's very chea-eap. Right now you can pick one up at our LGS, for $269 +tax.
It's a 9mm the hold 10+1 or you can get 12 round magazines too. It goes bang every time.
The old ones had a 10# trigger spring on them. But the new ones are down to about 8 1/2 or 9 #'s. Her's is one of the old ones but she can hit what she points at with it.
She also has a Keltec PF9 that is her regular CCW. It's small enough she can put it in her jeans pocket. It hold 6 + 1. It goes bang every time. And it sells at the LGS for $269 also. She has other heavier 9mm's, but these cheap little Keltecs are easy to carry & not much lost, in $$$ if you get it stolen.
It's a 9mm the hold 10+1 or you can get 12 round magazines too. It goes bang every time.
The old ones had a 10# trigger spring on them. But the new ones are down to about 8 1/2 or 9 #'s. Her's is one of the old ones but she can hit what she points at with it.
She also has a Keltec PF9 that is her regular CCW. It's small enough she can put it in her jeans pocket. It hold 6 + 1. It goes bang every time. And it sells at the LGS for $269 also. She has other heavier 9mm's, but these cheap little Keltecs are easy to carry & not much lost, in $$$ if you get it stolen.
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For rural areas, I prefer a mid caliber, mid power rifle. I usually take a levergun in 30-30, or similar caliber. Though truthfully, I find myself taking my 1985 GS quite frequently.
For urban areas, I use a slighlty modified Franchi 20 ga. It's modified similarly to my "Perfect Jeep Gun" (gotta take a photo) shown below. Small, light, handy, and with more than enough oomph to deal with urban "issues".
For urban areas, I use a slighlty modified Franchi 20 ga. It's modified similarly to my "Perfect Jeep Gun" (gotta take a photo) shown below. Small, light, handy, and with more than enough oomph to deal with urban "issues".
PT92
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Agreed--If not the P series pistols, try their carbines (equally effective/affordable).
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PT92
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Just to be sure, you don't carry this in your truck broken-down?For rural areas, I prefer a mid caliber, mid power rifle. I usually take a levergun in 30-30, or similar caliber. Though truthfully, I find myself taking my 1985 GS quite frequently.
For urban areas, I use a slighlty modified Franchi 20 ga. It's modified similarly to my "Perfect Jeep Gun" (gotta take a photo) shown below. Small, light, handy, and with more than enough oomph to deal with urban "issues".
-Cheers
Byrd666
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Hipoint 9mm or .45acp carbine- Hipoint .45 acp or 9mm pistol - Both are inexpensive and ugly. Yet from the people I know that have either of them, they are accurate and reliable. I plan on getting the 9mm carbine and pistol myself for f around "toys".
Yep, it's carried broken down. I'm not too terribly concerned about immediate use. What's the old saying, "A handgun is what you use to fight your way to a long gun". I'm fairly comfortable with the 1911 I usually carry.
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