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This may belong in an ammo section so Mods move it if necessary. I'm putting it here for the biggest exposure.

My question is: What other form of ID can I use to prove citizenship beside a Birth Cert. to satisfy CMP requirements? I have always used my DL for employment apps so I've never had to have the Birth Cert. Last time I needed it was to get my DL 33 years ago and my mom had it with her papers. I hate to have to pay $17 to get a certified copy from the county. Plus the drive to Orange county to pick it up. Is this the price I have to pay to get inexpensive ammo? Yes I am a Native born U. S. citizen. Thanks in advance.
 
I beleive thier website list all the documents they accept to fullfill each requirement. I get the link and take a look and get back to this.


found it:
http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/eligibility_requirements.htm

ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS
By law, the CMP can sell surplus military firearms, ammunition, parts and other items only to members of CMP affiliated clubs who are also U.S. citizens, over 18 years of age and who are legally eligible to purchase a firearm.

U.S. Citizenship:
You must provide a copy of a U.S. birth certificate, passport, proof of naturalization, or any official government document that shows birth in the U.S. or states citizenship as U.S.

Age
You must provide proof of age. Usually proof of citizenship also provides proof of age. In those cases where it may not, a driver뭩 license is sufficient.

Membership in CMP Affiliated Organization
You must provide a copy of your current membership card or other proof of membership. This requirement cannot be waived. The CMP currently has over 2,000 affiliated organizations located in many parts of the country.

Membership in many of these organizations costs $25.00 or less and can be accomplished online. A listing of affiliated organizations can be found by clicking on our Club Search web page at http://clubs.odcmp.com/cgi-bin/clubSearch.cgi. If you have any difficulty in locating a club, please contact the CMP at 256-835-8455 or by emailing [email protected]. We will find one for you. In addition to shooting clubs, the CMP also has several special affiliates. Membership in these organizations satisfies our requirement for purchase. These special affiliates include: Congressionally chartered veterans' organizations such as the VFW, AL, DAV, MCL, etc. U.S. Military services (active or reserves), National Guard, to include retirees. Professional 501(c)3 law enforcement organizations and associations such as the FOP, NAPO, NSA, etc.

Note: Club membership IS required for purchase of rifles, parts, and ammunition.

Club membership is NOT required for instructional publications or videos or CMP memorabilia.

Marksmanship or other Firearms Related Activity
You must provide proof of participation in a marksmanship related activity or otherwise show familiarity with the safe handling of firearms and range procedures. Your marksmanship related activity does not have to be with highpower rifles; it can be with smallbore rifles, pistols, air guns or shotguns. Proof of marksmanship participation can be provided by documenting any of the following:

Current or past military service.
Current or past law enforcement service
Participation in a rifle, pistol, air gun or shotgun competition (provide copy of results bulletin).
Completion of a marksmanship clinic that included live fire training (provide a copy of the certificate of completion or a statement from the instructor).
Distinguished, Instructor, or Coach status.
Concealed Carry License.
Firearms Owner Identification Cards that included live fire training.
FFL or C&R license.
Completion of a Hunter Safety Course that included live fire training.
Certification from range or club official or law enforcement officer witnessing shooting activity. A form for use in completing and certifying your range firing can be downloaded from the CMP web site at http://www.odcmp.com/forms/marksmanship.pdf
No proof of marksmanship required if over age 60. proof of club membership and citizenship required for all ages.
NOTE: Proof of marksmanship activity is not required for purchase of ammunition, parts, publications or memorabilia.

Be Legally Eligible to Purchase a Firearm
The information you supply on your application will be submitted by the CMP to the FBI National Instant Criminal Check System (NICS) to verify you are not prohibited by Federal, State or Local law from acquiring or possessing a rifle. Your signature on the Purchaser Certification portion of the purchase application authorizes the CMP to initiate the NICS check and authorizes the FBI to inform CMP of the result. IMPORTANT: If your State or locality requires you to first obtain a license, permit, or Firearms Owner ID card in order to possess or receive a rifle, you must enclose a photocopy of your license, permit, or card with the application for purchase.

Order Form and Purchaser Certification and Agreement
Order forms and other required documents may be downloaded from http://www.odcmp.com/Forms/1orderform.pdf. For those customers who receive our hard-copy catalog, we recommend they make several copies of the blank form for use in placing future orders. Customers should complete both the Order Form and the Purchaser Certification and Agreement and sign it before a notary. Orders received without notarized signature will not be processed.

Repeat Customers
In the summer of 2003, the CMP revised the purchase forms and streamlined procedures for repeat customers. If you complete a new Universal Purchaser Certification and Agreement to buy a rifle from the CMP, signed before a Notary Public on or after July 1, 2003, you may for a period of three (3) years thereafter submit an application to purchase additional rifles, parts or ammunition without having the Purchaser Certification and Agreement notarized - provided that the 밪HIP TO? address on the order form remains exactly the same.

Although for repeat orders you will not have to have the forms notarized, hard copy liability/order/certification forms ? pages 1a,2a,and 3a ?must still be completed and sent to the CMP with original (wet) signatures. These orders may not be faxed or emailed.

After three years a new notarized Universal Purchaser Certification and Agreement will be required for any additional rifle purchase. Any change of address on the order form automatically will require a new notarized Universal Purchaser Certification and Agreement.

Please note that this streamlined procedure is available only to customers who have completed a notarized 밬niversal? Purchaser Certification and Agreement. An application submitted on an earlier form (dated before summer 2003) will still be processed by CMP, but for that transaction only; it will not be accepted for repeat sales.

Proof of citizenship, age, CMP-affiliated club membership and competitive shooting participation, and any copy of any license, permit, or Firearms Owner ID card required by your State or locality submitted with your initial 밬niversal?application will be kept on file by the CMP. If any item of proof above has expired, you must submit proof of current status with any subsequent application.
 
No I don't have a passport.
Yes, I saw the OC site and the mail order option. I also saw the Vital Check option. It will cost more to drive and pick it up in person than to pay the extra through the internet. The notory I can get done for free. I guess I will have to bite the bullet and pay for it. Yea I should have one at home but I've never needed a Birth Cert. to buy ammo before. I guess this is just one of the many things that have been screwed up by some people.
Thanks for the response.
 
Texas has a fax setup. All the birth certificates are in Austin. You can go to your local court house and get a faxed certified copy. Surely as progressive as Kalif. is-------
 
We phoned it in to Nashville, paid with a card and they sent it registered mail to the address on our driver's license. Pretty minimal fuss in TN.

As to the requirement being due to being "screwed up by some people", I don't think that's the case. Remember CMP never was a retail or mail order "store". It was part of a government sponsored program to foster marksmanship. Participation in the program required some proof of participation in shooting sports and that required some form of ID. Heck, you have to present the approved ID when you purchase ammo at the CMP store (north or south).
 
When I called CMP the very nice young lady at the other end said they require a document that shows a place of birth. SS card doesn't have that. Besides in Calif any one with enough $$ can get a good forgery. I decided to send my wife(after she volunteered to go to OC) and get one. Turns out she has a friend that lives near there and they will have lunch and catch up on old news. (I'm glad I'm not driving the 91 freeway. I'd rather have a root canal than go there.) She has to sign a paper swearing she is there on my behalf and show her DL. This way I get it in a day and she sees a friend. Two birds with one stone. Thanks for the responses.
 
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