Guns in the movies: you gotta be kidding.

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But the part I thought was funny in that movie is Jolie was fighting Pitt in the house, and she has a silenced MP5 in one hand and a shotgun in the other. I acutally laughed at that scene.

i thought she had a suppressed HK UMP and a Fabarm FP6 Short Barreled Shotgun.....
 
If anyone has Desperado on DVD, watch the scene where Mr. Throwing-Knife-Guy is fighting the other bad guys around the limo. One of the guy's autos locks back empty and he somehow manages to get one or two more shots off....that's the kind of weapon I'm looking for.
 
godfather 3 when vincent tells the reporter woman about joey zazza's bodyguard.. "he dips his bullets in cyanide" :uhoh:

I wonder how that affects the finish of the gun...
 
i recently saw "The Replacement Killers" again. Chow Yun Fat is supposed to assassinate this detective. he puts together his sniper rifle, an AR-15 9mm :rolleyes:

then he has butler creek flip-up sights on his scope but the red push button, which is normally on the lens facing the shooter is located on the objective lens (facing the barrel).
 
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"i thought she had a suppressed HK UMP and a Fabarm FP6 Short Barreled Shotgun....."

Maybe it was a UMP, I thought at the time it was an MP5 but I could have made that judgment too soon. I'm not sure about the type of shotgun though, so I'll say you're right on that one.
 
im surprised nobody mentioned any James Bond movies..... seriously, a pistol with a *maybe* 2 inch barrel taking out bad guys with AK47's? seriously now, thats real *sarcasm* lol
 
Another Phoneywood thing

How about when people are shot they either drop instantly or fly back. Talk about not knowing Netwonian Physics.
If a person would fly back when hit with a bullet, the shooter must also be on the ground. Never happens.
The real problem I have with this fraud is that because most people haven't shot a firearm, all the know is what they see in the movies. This can only lead to trouble.

Now, yes when a person is shot they might drop because they realize what's happened, but it's not because of the bullet, but psychological reasons.
 
True Lies has the best bottomless magazine scene ever. Bad guy busts into the bathroom with a krinkov with what looks like 2 30 round mags taped together. He proceeds to riddle the bathroom with a barrage of fire that would make a minigun look inadequate.
I loved this movie, but it's chock full of stupid.

I was an Aviation Ordnanceman working on Harriers for a while, and they are incapable of firing while hovering. VSTOL mode disables Air-to-Air mode which is required to arm the 25mm gun and triggers Weight-On-Wheels which disables Master Arm.

But it made a hell of a movie to see him shredding the building with the Harrier.

One of my moviegun pet peeves is when they continuously cock guns/work actions to make a dramatic point. Example: bad guy cocks gun and says "I mean it", minutes later BG cocks gun AGAIN and says "I really mean it"
 
I have to wonder if a lot of the technical stuff in 'True Lies' was meant to be deliberate. James Cameron directed that, and generally speaking he's a stickler for technical detail, at least by Hollywood standards.
 
I have to wonder if a lot of the technical stuff in 'True Lies' was meant to be deliberate. James Cameron directed that, and generally speaking he's a stickler for technical detail, at least by Hollywood standards.
I would like to think it was. The movie makes no attempt whatsoever to not be over-the-top. In fact, it is more of a comedy than an action film. Perhaps that is why the blunders are forgivable. Ahnold's character is partially a spoof on Bond, and the idea that anybody from Langley would be current on his flight hours for the Harrier is hilarious-but just the sort of nonsense a Bond film would have.
 
dunno'bout the worst

but the best out there no doubt is 'the Heat' with De Niro and Al Pacino.
Pleny of various guns and a lot of shooting, with more or less realistic 'impact' and constant reloading.

here's some flicks.
The crazy man with the Star 'Megastar'
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a very serious guy with the FN FAL
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fire support with HK33 (or 93?)
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close and personal
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I have some more really cool snaps from that move, will share if anyone care
 
Michael Mann does it right for sure.


ronin was pretty good too.


BTW- Jon in Replacement Killers had to use a 9mm to make use of those super cool engraved 9mms...
 
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It still isn't the 1911 he claims it to be though. I find it particularly disgusting that they couldn't find the housefly of handguns to put in his hand.

I'm sure they had no problem finding 1911s. You don't see many 1911s used in the movies, however, because for a long time there was no good way to adapt them for blank firing. Even in movies where the characters were supposedly using 1911s, the pistols were often actually Star 9mm's because the Stars looked a lot like 1911s and blanks and blank adapters were readily available for them.
 
Max,
Please do post some more of those from Heat. I love that film and I am in need of some new screensavers. Thanks!
 
Oh, and Steven Seagal should never be allowed near another movie set ever again. His movies are utter dreck.

His early movies were not that bad.

Then in the mid 90'S he started huffing paint thinner and it all went down hill from there.

I have some more really cool snaps from that move, will share if anyone care

Sounds good to me!

I've got to get Heat on DVD!!!

ronin was pretty good too.

Yup! I wonder what was the siginificance behind the flashing (almost like signaling) of the head lights during the car chases? Was this for the stunt crew or?
 
Segal made some decent b-grade action flicks, one outright good (but still silly) action movie in Under Siege, and then started to crap the bed. You can measure how bad one of his movies is by how many fast cuts they have to do to fake his martial arts moves as he gets slower and fatter. In his old movies, you see longer fight sequences done mostly in-camera, with just a few cuts in a fight scene when they had to fit in some gore effects or break a fake arm. Later on, they do TONS of choppy editing to hide the fact that he can't get out of the way of his own ass anymore.

The plots went downhill really bad, too, going from dumb-but-tolerable action movie staples, to outright pesudo-hippie retardation, to "acting" with rappers. What a trajectory! :neener:

His gunplay in the older flicks wasn't particularly bad, either, used lots of 1911s if I recall.

True Lies was willfully silly in the extreme, so I don't think you can really count "inaccuracies" against it. It may be the only visual recording of Tom Arnold I've seen that didn't make me want to strangle him.
 
Dawn of the Dead (2004)

The director deliberately went with "real" guns: revolvers, Beretta 92s, Remington 870s. The commentary mentions that the weps people kept showing up with twin Desert Eagles, etc. and had to repeatedly be told "no."

The scene where Sarah Polley offs the sarcastic-guy-turned-zombie shows a closeup as she fires the revolver. No recoil, and the cylinder and hammer never move. Amazing! ;)

Still a fun movie. Remember also that many Hollyweird actors have never fired a live round, unlike people like Jimmy Stewart and Ernest Borgnine, both of whom were WWII combat vets.

All my best,
Dirty Bob
 
True Lies

What y'all don't know, and will explain everything, is that True Lies is actually a remake of a (of all things) French film called "L'Action".

My understanding is that the original was a comedy. But I don't know for sure because I've never been able to find it in the U.S., and when I was in Paris last year the Parisians were such foul, egomaniacal, sons of unwed mothers that I couldn't bring myself to spend a single Franc (Euro) that wasn't absolutely required for my sustinence. So I didn't buy a copy.
 
Yup! I wonder what was the siginificance behind the flashing (almost like signaling) of the head lights during the car chases? Was this for the stunt crew or?


In Europe, when you're driving in the left (fast) lane, and come upon a slower car, you flash your lights and they are supposed to move over. Something like that. I believe in the movie they were just trying to get people out of the way, like someone in a panicked car chase would want...

Segal's early flicks are some of my favorites, Out For Justice, Hard to Kill, etc are good. Once he got political (Fire Down Below, on deadly ground comes to mind) His straight to blockbuster movies are horrendous, but Exits Wounds, well I've seen worse.
 
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