Heads-Up If You CCW in Ohio - Video Is Up!

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There really needs to be a criminal charge for this as well as a lawsuit. I know for sure I couldn't take my gun and threaten to execute someone without going to prison.
 
This video needs to get the same kind of exposure as the beating of the barmaid by the Chicago cop. The Canton PD may not punish him, but we can certainly make this cop a pariah for what he did.

This video virtually guarantees that if he ever uses his firearm, justified or not, he's going to be ENDLESSLY second guessed.
 
That was pretty stunning, that officer obviously has some problems...he had to know that the camera was running. I'd say either he was never meant for a job in this field or he's been under too much stress for too long. I could even believe that he has been a steroid user...but he didn't look that pumped up to me.

It isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be from the original description. Most of what I'm hearing is fear

This video virtually guarantees that if he ever uses his firearm, justified or not, he's going to be ENDLESSLY second guessed.
I agree, I don't think you can recover from this kind of thing
 
I agree, I don't think you can recover from this kind of thing
Like Anthony Abbate, the Chicago cop who stomped the barmaid, people from pirate villages in Somalia to Buddhist monasteries in Nepal will know this cop's name and face and despise him. The city will be DELUGED with demands that he be fired. He is now the posterboy for the Canton PD and there's NOTHING they can do about it.

This is racing through the gun boards like wildfire. Watch what happens when it breaks out onto the political blog sites. There won't be ANYWHERE ON EARTH where he can escape from it.
 
" any time I see this car I'm going to pull you over Tow the car and take you to jail" This cop needs to be put under the nearest federal prison. Cops use thier power to tow, incurr storage fees, to punish those they don't like, these dogs need to have some teeth pulled.
 
There's an old saying about not stirring anything if you don't want to smell anything. He was looking for a hooker and found himself in himself in a bad situation that just got worse. Fortunately, no one was hurt. Those being said, if you don’t want to have an encounter with a law enforcement officer, then don’t put yourself in a law breaking situation.

However, that does not mean that an officer can act as though either of these two keystone cops did. In fact, they should consider themselves quite lucky that they are still able to suck oxygen from the atmosphere. It’s real easy to see that they were either poorly trained or completely ignored their training.

So where did they mess up. Let me count the ways. Billy Bad Behind approaches the vehicle wearing gloves. Why? Doing so would indicate that he got out itching for a fight. Not saying that law enforcement officers shouldn't put on cut proof gloves to frisk a person. I do it all the time. But, I certainly don't drive around wearing them. Seeing how they got out of the car rather quickly when they arrived on scene, I may be wrong, but I thing he was already wearing his gloves. Again Why?

Only under certain circumstances can an officer search an automobile without obtaining a warrant. One reason would be if contraband is scene in plain sight. I didn't see anything in the video that would indicate this. Another reason would be if consent was given. I doubt that was the case as I never saw either officer contact the driver prior to the back seat being searched attempt to lawfully inventory the contents prior to impoundment.

I don't know how these guys were trained, but only a complete idiot would crawl around in the back seat of a car with an unrestrained person in the front seat. Again he's lucky he gets to go home. It could have turned out real bad had he been dealing with a felon instead of some lonely soul looking for company on a dimly lit road.

The young guy obviously has a chip on his shoulder. He needs professional help. He takes things way too personal. In our line of work, nothing is personal. We do a job. That's it, nothing more. Why all the belittlement? Neither of these guys have counselor as part of their job description. They are law enforcement officers. As such they enforce the law. They are not there to cast judgment on anyone. It's not part of what we do.

Clearly the driver of the vehicle has a cause of action under 42 USC 1983.

"Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer’s judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia."

In addition, to civil damages for the 1983 action, these two guys should get down and pray that this guy's lawyer doesn't make a criminal complaint with the FBI for civil rights violations.

My 2 cents
 
In what part of the USA is it okay to tell a female that she should leave the area and if seen again she would "Get some lumps"???

In what part of the USA can an officer threaten to put ten rounds into a citizen while his partner is a witness to "execute you for stupidity'?

The Canton PD has a lot of problems. For those who might not recall, google Bobby Cutts Junior and see what sort of LEOs are in the Canton PD.
 
Johnny_Come_Lately said:
There's an old saying about not stirring anything if you don't want to smell anything. He was looking for a hooker and found himself in himself in a bad situation that just got worse. Fortunately, no one was hurt. Those being said, if you don’t want to have an encounter with a law enforcement officer, then don’t put yourself in a law breaking situation.

While it certainly is a possibility - maybe even likely - you can't know that. There's no positive evidence on the video that he was soliciting a prostitute, and he is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. Talking or giving a ride to a woman at night, even one with two prior arrests for prostitution, is not breaking the law.
 
badge or no badge, someone says they should kill me and they have the means to that person will be on the ground fast. i would be in fear for my life when dealing with that officer. anything i would do to protect myself would be legal (i'd have the dashboard cam to back me up). that video sickened me.
 
While it certainly is a possibility - maybe even likely - you can't know that. There's no positive evidence on the video that he was soliciting a prostitute, and he is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. Talking or giving a ride to a woman at night, even one with two prior arrests for prostitution, is not breaking the law.
To that, let me add that to accept at face value the cop's assertion that the woman was a "prostitute" is to take TOTALLY without substantiation, the word of somebody who has DEMONSTRATED his lack of judgment and common sense, and on video no less.

I wouldn't take THAT cop's word that the woman had watched the movie "Pretty Woman", much less that she was or had ever been a hooker.

Beware of various libels that may be spread by the cop, his friends and supporters. After the Chicago cop stomped the barmaid on video, I started seeing a bunch of strangely similar posts in various places that the victim was an "illegal alien" and DESERVED the beating.
 
Rogue cop = bad news

It's obvious the Canton PD needs a little housecleaning. :rolleyes:
 
Wow. That was pretty unbelievable. I think that guy is going to get a lot of money out of this. I'm not even sure what to think should happen to that cop. Can the guy sue the cop as well as the city? What charges could be brought against that cop?

To all the good cops out there, thank you.
 
The Canton Chief of Police posted on the Canton PD facebook page that the officer has been relieved of duty and IA is investigating. While that's fine, I would like to know if that happened immediately once the prosecutor first saw the video (which was at least a week ago if not longer), or if it only happened this morning?

If those actions only happened this morning, IMO that implies that the Canton PD policy is that having a cop like this working the streets is ok.
 
I watched the video and I think the guy failed to notify. The cop blew a gasket tho... I'm not a cop but it seemed to me that he failed to control the situation from the start and it freaked him out when he realized that.

It bears repeating: To all LEO out there, thank you. I won't hold this one bad example against you.
 
Maybe I missed it; but was the driver ever charged? Did they dismiss the charges? When did it become illegal to give someone a ride?
He was charged with "failure to promptly notify" that he had a CHL and was armed... after being ORDERED NOT TO NOTIFY.

It's equivalent to a cop ordering you at gunpoint to strip nude in public, then arresting you for "indecent exposure". It is unlawful for a cop to either prevent you from exercising a statutory duty, or forcing you to commit a crime, then arrest you for the action or inaction which he himself coerced.
 
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