Hotel Clerk Shoots Robber (video)

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Video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3AA_dgRdDhk

Police: Motel Clerk Shoots Would-Be Robber
Man To Be Charged With Aggravated Robbery

UPDATED: 8:50 am EDT August 7, 2005

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Police said a desk clerk shot a man who was attempting to rob an east side motel on Saturday night.

Officers said that shortly before 9:30 p.m., a man walked into the Super 8 Motel, located at 2055 Brice Rd., showed a gun and demanded money.

Police said the desk clerk on duty then shot the alleged robber, Antoine Stephens.

Stephens, 20, was transported to Grant Medical Center and was in serious condition on Sunday morning, NBC 4 reported.

Police said he would be charged with aggravated robbery.

The motel clerk's name was not released. It was unclear as to whether he would be charged.

Source: http://www.nbc4i.com/news/4819485/detail.html

Clerk was apparently not charged according to 19-page discussion here.

Quote from same thread referenced above:
It was .40 caliber golden saberes in the 165 grain loading. 3 out of 3 shots hit the perp, although the exact location of the hits were never told to him. He went up and looked at him for a minute when the police dispatcher asked were he was hit, but his shirt covered the wounds. He didn't want to touch him or anything. The police were very, very polite and profesional. The attitude was very positive, and since this wasn't his first hold up, I think they were happy to be able to catch him and put him away. The police bought him something to drink and gave him ciggerettes. They also gave him his gun back as soon as they were done with it, and in good condition.
 
no sympathy to the thug but....

he was shot as he was aparently running out of the place, so I have to wonder if the shooter will be charged
 
It looks like the thug didn't take off until he got hit with the first one. The clerk did the right thing, shoot to stop/drop. He didn't delay between shots. I don't see any charges happening.
 
DK-
if thats the case then my thinking changes, though for me at least it played kind of crappy and seems like shots weren't fired untill after the guy started running, kind of like saw a gun and bolted and as he bolted shots were fired. Least thats how it looked on my end, for someone it played better for might be different.

Don't get me wrong, thug got what he deserved, but with the legal system these days if it happened as it played on my end I wouldn't be surprised if there is something filed.
 
He had the presence of mind to know a baby was close to his line of fire and took appropriate action. This man's an ace, even under the pressure of life and death. If it is possible for anyone here to keep us apprised of this, please send us updates if the perp is ever caught. It looks like he took one (or two) in the back, so he mighta showed up at a hospital with a different story.
 
The perp is IN custody - he was dropped at the scene right there in the doorway. Notice how the clerk/CCW guy points the gun at the ground for a bit at an angle while looking through the sights - he's covering the downed goblin but doesn't fire at that point.

So far I've seen the youtube version only, but in several replays I think the clerk managed to keep his own fire at LEAST two feet to the right of the baby and possibly as much as three feet. As the mother finally shifted out of the line of fire the clerk stepped around her and continued firing WHILE avoiding putting mother or baby in the line of fire.

This was absolutely brilliant shooting. He did NOT fixate on the target while failing to consider bystanders. Note his footwork, he has enough of his concentration split on mom and baby to protect them while maintaining accurate fire.

OutSTANDing.

What else...he kept his eyes closely on the money while doing a SLOW but stealthy draw. Interesting and damned effective.

I'm downloading the larger version now...let's see if there's anything else noteworthy.
 
I dont know how smart this really was. The good guy didnt actually move to avoid the woman and child. If she hadnt stepped aside he may well have been shooting right through them. He also used his female coworker for cover, which im not sure I approve of. All in all I think this might have been a situation where it was better to hand over the money and then play it by ear. Too many people standing in the line of fire to shoot it out IMHO.

Thats my only problem with this. Personally, if they had given him the money, and the clerk followed him out and shot him in the open without anyone else around I would be totally comfortable with that. Frankly he could have shot him in the back for all I care.
 
He also used his female coworker for cover, which im not sure I approve of.

Well, he used her as visual cover to draw his gun, which I think is brilliant. You can't draw the thing with the guy watching, so might as well put that side of your body behind the fat chick. Since he wasn't standing behind her as cover as he was firing or anything I don't really see a problem with it - I think it was pretty smart.
 
I've stayed here!

A few years ago when I was entering the USMC, they put us up in this hotel for the night after the ASVAB and before the physical checkup, etc. Not a bad hotel, really.
 
I can't be sure without sound, but it looks like he whispers something to his co-worker just before he draws. Maybe "get down?"

--oh, and at the start of the video he's on the computer. It would be funny to see an enhancement close-up of the screen and see him on thehighroad.org! "BRB, Gotta take out the trash..."
 
This badguy ran into his worst nightmare... According to one of the links I followed the shooter is an NRA intructor. Ouch!
 
I'm assuming the first shot was taken off camera shortly after he drew his gun and was moving to the right behind the female clerk. I only saw two muzzle flashes after that, as the perp was leaving.

Obviously, I'm glad the incident turned out the way it did, with the scumbag absorbing all the lead.

I have no idea how I would have reacted in the same situation, so this is not to be taken as criticism of the good guy's action, just after the fact commentary and food for discussion.

The guy was sharp. He turned his body and used his coworker to conceal the fact he was drawing. He was moving in a direction that would put the others out of the line of fire.

Now the "but" part. Should he have continued to fire as the bad guy was retreating? I would like to know if the BG dropped the gun after the first hit or not. If he still had the gun, you could make an argument that he was still a threat--he could have turned and returned fire at any moment. Second, I was bothered by the fact that the follow up shots were awfully close to the dumb-ass mother and her baby. I know how the tunnel vision thing works. Once the clerk made the decision to shoot, he was focused on putting shots on the perp, but, OMG, imagine if he had hit the kid.

Anyway, the perp got what he deserved.

K
 
I see "retreat" several times. Looks to me like heading for cover and concealment. It just so happens that the best cover is behind him. Do you know that he's going to make for the next county when he hits that door? I don't. I assume he's a criminal and may open fire indiscriminately in my general direction when he gets behind cover. Of course, I also assume that the BG has a gun. I didn't see one.


David
 
The thread I posted earlier has several posts from the shooter in this incident; complete with picture of him posting to verify that it is in fact him. According to that thread:

The shooter in this video was not charged and was not even sued in civil court (yet). The shooting took place August 5, 2005.

When he draws and steps around his female coworker, the bad guy had a .45LC revolver pointed at the ground down by his side. The clerk (an NRA instructor) gave him a verbal warning to drop the gun and the man responded by raising it instead. At this point the clerk ducked back reflexively and started shooting. According to the clerk, the woman is not as near to his line of sight as she appears in the video and the whole incident from the time he draws until the bad guy is down lasts 2.9 seconds.
 
I don't believe the guys line of fire is as close to the woman as the comera angel appears to show. The camera is high to the left of the action which makes everything appear closer together.
 
he didn't hide

If he was hiding....he would have never got out of his chair....or worse, crawled under the counter.

All movement is towards BG.....first on his feet (standing up like a man)....then to right (feigning to help open safe....but really positioning to draw).....then draw & more to right and into firing position to confront BG......then he keeps moving right as shooting.

BG does appear to be fleeing.....but where to.....the lobby or parking lot to take a hostage??

Time from draw to bang, bang, bang is pretty darn fast!

Mother with child moves out of way pretty quickly I thought....have to be careful not to interpret the "pause to buffer the download" as lapsed time.

I wonder why he runs back to the left side of the counter before coming back out to cover BG.

Maybe he hit an alarm or something.

I bet he and the co-worker talked about possible scenarios often....she doesn't seem to surprised.

I only hope I'd do 1/2 as good if in the same position.
 
Nobody is mentioning right before the shooting starts, everyone jumps, including the GG. It almost looks like the BG takes a shot or maybe made a gesture that scared everyone.
I'd say its a mostly good shoot. His line of fire wasn't great, with the woman/baby next to the BG. However, if he truely got 3 of 3 hits that speaks volumes to his ability.
Female worker does a nice job of getting the dumbass woman with baby behind cover after the shoot. She just stands there dumbfounded until chubby gets control of her.
 
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