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Deus Machina
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Unless it was not in proper operating condition, it's impossible.
The only thing I could see messing this up is packing the trigger pieces full of crud. Don't see that as completely out of the question with the way some officers treat their sidearms, but unlikely.
Otherwise, it was something wedged in the trigger guard. Probably a finger.
The only thing I could see messing this up is packing the trigger pieces full of crud. Don't see that as completely out of the question with the way some officers treat their sidearms, but unlikely.
Otherwise, it was something wedged in the trigger guard. Probably a finger.
No, physically impossible for an uncocked gun to fire.
(Unless it's an old hammer fired one dropped on the hammer.)
Outlaw Man
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Both articles say it was in his holster when it went off, one of them stated the officer was the source of that information.
Now, we've all known the media to get it wrong once or twice, but the conjecture I'm seeing is the automatic assumption that he had to be holstering the firearm. Why was he doing that? As Elm Creek said, you should be doing that when you first put on the belt and holster. Was he walking around campus with his gun drawn? From the second article, there already appears to be a case of officers in that department haphazardly handling weapons while (seemingly) on duty....at least if you can decipher the gibberish about reloading devices.
There are still some questions that remain to be answered. I want to see the video.
Now, we've all known the media to get it wrong once or twice, but the conjecture I'm seeing is the automatic assumption that he had to be holstering the firearm. Why was he doing that? As Elm Creek said, you should be doing that when you first put on the belt and holster. Was he walking around campus with his gun drawn? From the second article, there already appears to be a case of officers in that department haphazardly handling weapons while (seemingly) on duty....at least if you can decipher the gibberish about reloading devices.
There are still some questions that remain to be answered. I want to see the video.
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Yeah...the info in that news article is rather dubious....I am not even sure we can be sure it was a Glock if they couldn't even get the caliber correct.
Unless some shade tree smith removes them though, they also have a striker block that needs to be pushed out of the way by the trigger bar.
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bigger hammer
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I doubt that the gun in this incident spontaneously self−discharged but one should "Never say never." I have a friend who has testified against Glock a couple of times over accidental/negligent discharges that were neither "accidental" nor "negligent." I don't remember the details but I do recall that at least two of those incidents involved baton training with a side handle baton. While practicing horizontal strikes those officers used their holster to "stop" the swing of the baton, resulting in a fairly good strike to the side of the holstered gun, causing it to fire. There were at least two lawsuits over such incidents. Glock settled those cases out of court with confidentiality agreements.
Magnuumpwr
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I thought, by chance, he might have been the person that bought the Glock on Gunbroker with the cut off trigger guard.
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Well, here is the official explanation of the ND. I still don't understand it though. In order for the gun to fire the trigger has to be pulled back. How can getting a key between the back of the trigger and trigger guard fire the gun?
I must be missing something simple and would appreciate you guys pointing it out.
http://www.wistv.com/story/23303541/school-resource-officer-back-on-job-after-gun-accidentally-fires-at-high-school
Well, here is the official explanation of the ND. I still don't understand it though. In order for the gun to fire the trigger has to be pulled back. How can getting a key between the back of the trigger and trigger guard fire the gun?
I must be missing something simple and would appreciate you guys pointing it out.
http://www.wistv.com/story/23303541/school-resource-officer-back-on-job-after-gun-accidentally-fires-at-high-school
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Fishslayer
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The range I go to allows drawing from the holster. I keep an eye on these. I've noticed that almost without exception after the concentration of drawing and firing there is a very perceptable "letting up" when reholstering.
Definitely not "High Road" but if ya want a laugh go to YouTube & look up "Plaxico Burris on gun safety!"
He was not re-holstering according to the original story.The range I go to allows drawing from the holster. I keep an eye on these. I've noticed that almost without exception after the concentration of drawing and firing there is a very perceptable "letting up" when reholstering.
Definitely not "High Road" but if ya want a laugh go to YouTube & look up "Plaxico Burris on gun safety!"
It is more clear when the departmental spokesperson is doing the demo...the key isn't behind the holster, it is in front.
When they talk about the space that allowed the key to enter the holster, they are referring to a space between the top edge of the holster and the face of the trigger. There is a clear picture of it in the video at 1:02 mins
See it now. Wow, think a better holster is in order. I guess if nothing else, this should prompt us all to make sure our guns and holsters are a good, safe match.
It is a Safariland SLS.
I used to use one as a duty rig for my SIG 226R and 220. I covers the trigger fine in that application, but I can see how it might expose a Glock's trigger as it is set a bit further back
I used to use one as a duty rig for my SIG 226R and 220. I covers the trigger fine in that application, but I can see how it might expose a Glock's trigger as it is set a bit further back
pa350z
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PA State Police had an issue with their Glock's discharging when being holstered. They have kept quite about the issue. At least one Trooper was severely injured. Seemingly, the leather holster gets worn and ends up in the trigger guard when the weapon is holstered thus causing the trigger to engage. Not sure how a Glock would simply discharge if it were static in a holster as is mentioned in the OP commentary?
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