how to lose your CCW permit

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Jeff22

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An incident just investigated by my police department.

Public employee with a valid CCW permit working in a public building. The permit holder has some kind of Smith & Wesson 9mm auto pistol. He uses the rest room and elects to take the gun out of the holster and hang it on the coat hook on the inside of the door of the restroom stall.

When he is finished, he walks off and leaves his gun hanging there. Somebody finds it, and a controversy ensues . . .

If you're going to carry a gun, you need to have your brain switched on all the time . . .
 
maybe a tactical coat rack is needed... I dont know if that story is funny or what, but that really sucks. Was the gun legal at this building?
 
There have been dozens upon dozens of stories of cops doing this for years. Seems to be a common problem.
 
Why do people find the need to unholster when going to the john?

I am imagining a scene from Blazing Saddles: "Excuse me while I whip this out."
 
That's why you should go sitting down, even if going number 1, and drop your weapon down in your underwear.....you'll never forget it that way.
 
Un-thread your holster from your belt and drop it in your pants. If that's not an option, un-thread your belt and holster, stick them both somewhere together. You might walk out without your holster, but you're going to notice you need your belt.

-Jenrick
 
there's an unconfirmed story of an officer using the restroom at a fire station (as they so often do) and leaving his gun and belt outside the stall. one of the firemen took a pack of firecrackers into the bathroom and said, "cool, a gun!" then lit the firecrackers. :D
 
Stupid people shouldn't have a CCW anyway. This is kind of a Darwin thing for CCW permits.
 
I agree with the comments; put it in your pants while in the stall (I tuck it under my underwear so it isn't visible).

Pretty hard to forget a gun in my opinion. I've heard of Sky Marshals leaving them on their seat and in the plane bathroom. Whoops!
 
Something failed (originally the user) and my XD-9 Subcompact fell out of a shoulder holster in the middle of the grocery store and hit the floor and bounced right in front of the coolers of ice cream as I was choosing a flavor. I caught it up like lightning and shoved it into my pants and looked around to see that nobody was looking. WOW. I learned to wear a new holster around the house for a while and make sure everything is adjusted properly. One of the straps was coming loose. I also learned to sew the straps down once I get them adjusted the way I want, so they don't come loose.
 
Coincidentally, I read about a similar incident in today's Times Herald Record, serving New York's Hudson Valley. Seems that a local police lieutenant was taking a dump at the local Galleria Shopping Mall and hung his jacket, with the gun inside the pocket, on the hook inside the stall. According to him, somebody tried to reach over the top of the stall and steal his jacket, and in the ensuing struggle, TWO rounds were fired into the ceiling of the restroom.

Do I believe it? Not on your life. Call me cynical if you will; but cynics are made, not born, and I think there's more to the story. My point, however, is that it's not only civilian CCW holders that need to exercise responsibility, it's everyone charged with the responsibility of carrying a firearm.
 
I carry OWB in a pancake, and when I drop trou. I unbuckle my belt and then weave the non-buckle end of the belt back into a belt loop to prevent the loosened belt from sliding out of the belt loops. I grap the pistol grip on the right and the pants on the left, tuck thumbs into my skivies and pull it all down in one motion while sitting.... then I roll the holstered piece in, so that it is resting in my skivies.

Nothing to it, the piece stays holstered and available.

That said... I don't like to use public restrooms if I can avoid it...

Long ago I developed what we then called a "watchstander's bladder" for those 6 hour watch stations where you can't get a head break.
 
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