How Well Do You Clean Your Guns?

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How Well Do You Clean Your Guns?

Probably not too well by most people's standards.

I...
  • Field strip the gun,
  • Saturate a patch with solvent (usually Hoppe's #9, but in a pinch I have used penetrating oil),
  • Run the saturated patch up and down the bore,
  • Run a brush up and down the bore,
  • Followed by a dry patch, and then
  • A patch with a few drops of oil on it.
Then, I
  • Clean the trigger group using a patch with some oil on it,
  • Clean the gas system (if there is one) using the same patch
  • Rub down the exterior surfaces using a patch with some oil on it.
  • Reassemble the gun.
The gun I have had the longest and still own is an Italian-made Armi Jager AP-74 I bought used in 1978. It has been cleaned this way since I got it and has never had a malfunction, so I figure I must be doing something adequate.
 
After 7 years in the infantry, I gave up the several hours per gun routine.

We'd always return from a field exercise on a Friday and the 1st Sergeant would keep us around cleaning until well after happy hour had concluded.

Now, I do it on my own convenient schedule. I always clean them well (eventually), but refuse to stress myself about it. The exception is the one in my pocket and anything that used corrosive surplus ammo.

I get satisfaction from seeing them spic n span, so I do a thorough job. Just don't rush me... :neener:
 
I clean my non carry pistols about every 500 rounds. Field strip and a couple patches, nylon brush to scrub everything. I only use CLP never any issues. Carry gun cleaned if shot regardless. I use a bore snake in-between cleanings if I feel needed. I will relube before I shoot if it's been a while. I clean my ar15 bcg every 500 or so rounds and brush out the chamber. Just a bore snake on the barrel. Never any issues. I used to over clean .
 
I clean my guns when I decide they need it. I put my blued handguns in a little plastic tub of diesel and clean them and soak them in it. It's a great bore solvent and makes bluing look wonderful after it's dried off.
All my handgun bores have ever had in them is a nylon bore brush, diesel soaked patches, and cast lead bullets. They stay shiny clean.
 
I clean my carry guns very thoroughly every time I shoot them. Range use only centerfires get cleaned when I feel like it and don't get as thorough a cleaning.

That's me.

For the carry guns, I do not want any doubt that they were not shot if the question arises.

For range guns, they get cleaned when I get top them. Some do not get shot often and I try not to store them away dirty but reality rears it's ugly head once in a while. I have a storage system where I know if a gun's been used and not cleaned. Periodically, I have an evening of cleaning.

While I do not shoot black powder these days and avoid corrosive ammunition like the plague, I would clean guns shot with that kind of ammunition immediately after shooting.
 
It seems like I may be going a bit overboard. Do any of you all have problems with bore pitting or other rust if you don't clean the bore out completely? I think that's one of the things I'm always concerned about.
 
Probably not too well by most people's standards.

I...
  • Field strip the gun,
  • Saturate a patch with solvent (usually Hoppe's #9, but in a pinch I have used penetrating oil),
  • Run the saturated patch up and down the bore,
  • Run a brush up and down the bore,
  • Followed by a dry patch, and then
  • A patch with a few drops of oil on it.
Then, I
  • Clean the trigger group using a patch with some oil on it,
  • Clean the gas system (if there is one) using the same patch
  • Rub down the exterior surfaces using a patch with some oil on it.
  • Reassemble the gun.

This mirrors my procedure after every range session, for every firearm I shoot. The only difference is that I wipe the exterior down with RIG instead of oil. I don't obsess over getting my firearms spotless enough to eat off of, just clean enough to prevent rust, malfunctions, or accuracy-robbing buildup.
 
It seems like I may be going a bit overboard. Do any of you all have problems with bore pitting or other rust if you don't clean the bore out completely? I think that's one of the things I'm always concerned about.

Not once with any modern ammo.



I have had surface rust appear after firing corrosive ammo, so that gets washed out and cleaned the same day, almost invariably.
 
I clean after every range use. And that is about once a week, normally. Field strip the 1911's, clean barrels with Ed's Red, clean
the frame and action out then lube everything with Lubriplate. Done till next time.
 
I see Dicks Sporting Goods advertise gun cleaning for $35, etc. It's just no way I could do it that fast or that anyone would clean them the way I do for $35.
Dick's gunsmiths probably disassemble them, toss 'em in an ultrasound for 20 min., blow off, wipe down, run a patch or two down the bore, and reassemble them. They do enough of them they can afford to charge $35 for it. The shop I last worked in charged $45 for pistols, $85 for long guns for ultrasound. We charged less for a standard cleaning, and I was meticulous when I did them. I got paid piecework, so I worked some long days. I clean my own guns the same way, meticulously. I only have a jewelry ultrasound, so only small parts go in that. Carry guns get cleaned when shot, as do BP and corrosive ammo, the rest when I get to them.
 
I have shot a metric tonne of old military surplus ammunition thru a variety of surplus firearms.
A water wetted patch or three at the range, if allowed, dry and follow up with an oily patch. I never had a problem with rusting.
Most of the time I clean and lube before I go to the range.
 
fwiw I do a basic field strip and cleaning every 100 round or when I am done with a gun for that week.
I shoot several times a week. Usually I try to shoot the same guns for that week to breed familiarity. Between sessions, I swab out the bore and reoil the rails and barrel

that is it. I feel that too much stripping of a gun( detailed strip) may loosen the parts and increase the wear of them--JMHO
 
My carry pistol gets cleaned after every range trip(100-200 rounds)
My shot gun gets cleaned after every range trip 200 plus rounds of clays.
My 22lr after every range trip it is by far the dirtiest firearm I own and my kids love to shoot it.

Sometimes it take a week or two to find time to clean then but I want the ready to go when needed.
 
I clean each gun every time I shoot it, but I only get to shoot a few times per month. I spend about 40 minutes to an hour and twenty minutes on each gun, depending on how dirty it is.

A few hours per gun? No thanks. Too much for me. I'd probably stop buying guns if I thought that was necessary.
 
Like many others I clean my guns after I have used them. Probably spend 30 to 45 minutes per gun, depending on how dirty it is. I usually follow this up with an inspection and light oiling (if needed), every 3 or 4 months.
 
The military is obsessed with unnecessary cleaning of firearms.

I clean my bullseye gun once or twice a year. Spray it down with kerosene and let it soak. Than rinse out the crap. run a bore brush down the barrel. tootbrush the rest of the parts. that is about it. I am not worried about missing some powder. it will get dirty the next time i shoot it anyway.
 
I clean my firearms like Gunny Mac is standing over my shoulder with white cotton gloves to do an inspection. He showed me all the little places where carbon likes to hide, on an AR at least. Old habits die hard.
 
Two hours is "boot camp" cleaning.
Remember that hte objective in Boot Camp is to keep ever more fit teenageers from getting into trouble. So having them spend two hours in solvent and rags just gives way to two hours cleaning up the squad bay afterward.

Now, I have dilly-dallied about cleaning arms after a long shooting session. Usually because I don't feel like rushing, or because there's decent tv on. But, if it's between cleaning and supper, it's quick.
 
I give my carry and other SD guns a decent cleaning after shooting. Maybe not right after but with a few days. I don't carry a dirty gun. A clean gun can get you out of trobule if someone claims you took a shot at them. If I'm doing something like load development that is going to take more than one range session.

Other guns I don't shoot often get a decent cleaning within a few days.

I Lube with CLP (with PTFE), Dri Slide (on ARS and other guns where the action is pretty much enclosed), and Mobil One grease ( for Garands). Neither dries up on a gun. I can clean a gun, put it away for years, and it will function well out of storage.

22 rifles generally get a few passes of a bore brush and patches and a spritz of lube. Many 22's like Nylon 66s and Marlin semis don't let you do much more than this.

Corrosive ammo? Those get cleaned right away.

Detail strip? Never. The only time a gun needs to be taken apart more than a field strip is when it's broken.
 
Similarly, I don't change the oil in my car, or vacuum and wash it, or change the brake pads, every time I go for a drive either.

And that's what cleaning a gun after every range outing really seems to boil down to.

I don't care to waste time on things that make me feel like I've done "the very best" but don't actually accomplish anything. At some point it becomes "magical thinking."

Everything is a trade-off, and yes, breaking out the cleaning stuff and stripping a gun every single time I shoot is spending time on that which I would rather spend another way.

You mention something that is really a valid consideration, though: maintenance interval. Many of us have this handed-down idea that the maintenance interval of a firearm is "one use." But is there any record of an industrial engineer or other such type sitting down and calculating the actual, measured and scientifically determined, maintenance interval for the simple machine we know of as a firearm? You'd have to figure out what's in the fouling, how much is deposited on which surfaces per shot, how much can be allowed to deposit before functioning is affected, what the effect of those compounds is on the wear surfaces of the gun, what other, environmental contaminates are likely to be deposited during use and what their effects are, and probably several other things, too. But I don't think the actual answer would be an arbitrary "one use."


And that is a very valid point, but not a conclusion. It points to a question. How many of us shoot our guns, ever, over a lifetime, until they're mechanically worn out from the grime of powder fouling?

Any of us? No? No, of course not. The only people who manage to shoot a gun "loose" (these days*) are very serious competitors who are going to spend something around 20-40 TIMES the cost of the gun in ammo doing so. If they choose to spend time cleaning the gun every time they shoot it, they certainly might extend its life by a bit, but that just staves off the replacement point by some slight percentage.

For the rest of us you might say it is true but not terribly important. Sort of how I could be concerned about the risk of increasing violence because my house is getting closer to Falujah every year. Well...it is. But I don't really have to worry about it in my lifetime. ;)



(* -- back 100 years ago some market gunners who shot ducks and geese for sale to restaurant suppliers were known to shoot a Remington 11 "loose" in a season or two. But that was a LOT of shells, and I'd have to imagine the conditions those guns were subjected to in daily waterfowling had a lot to do with it.)

You make some very good points.....however I come from this at a pretty different angle.

Most of my stuff is vintage, still all smokeless but vintage. With this stuff I see myself as just a caretaker of this history, and I do want to do the very best that I can with these guns.....it is a bit of the past, and I want them to keep going as long as they can. So on my old Krag I ran 10 rounds in yes it got a total tear down grease and oil and put away for a few months till I get a wild hair to shoot it again.

On the other hand my AR was last cleaned about 10 years ago....it was last shot by my son about that long ago, and was cleaned before he shot it....like you said I will never use it enough to wear it out.....however I guess it is possible that somewhere down the road someone will think that a 1990's version colt AR is really a bit of history and valuable....and some jack wad really should have taken better care of it.
 
Most of my stuff is vintage, still all smokeless but vintage. With this stuff I see myself as just a caretaker of this history, and I do want to do the very best that I can with these guns.....it is a bit of the past, and I want them to keep going as long as they can. So on my old Krag I ran 10 rounds in yes it got a total tear down grease and oil and put away for a few months till I get a wild hair to shoot it again.
There's certainly nothing wrong with that way of looking at gun cleaning either.:)
 
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