fallout mike
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The constitution is all or nothing!! It is black and white! !! There is no gray!! SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!! Where is the gray?
My view (and I'm absolutely right about this) is that being pro-2A has become synonymous with being a Conservative Republican in ALL regards for ALL issues.
Very well put. There are more than just the 2nd Amendment. But constituencies for those are hard to come by. Ones with money, less so.If its really about liberty why isn't there a massive organization like the NRA to restore the fourth amendment? And for those who only subscribe to media that validates their world views it was trashed by Bush with the Patriotic act and then trashed further by Obama. Unfortunately, the reality is the vast majority apparently don't care about the actual principle of liberty, in spite of how often they wrap themselves in that cloak, but only the specific liberties they value. If they did there would be a National Fourth Amendment Association but i guess since there are no massive corporations to fund it or political parties to use it for advantage we will never see one.
And yet NEITHER candidate for POTUS in the last two elections has been in lockstep with their respective parties platforms on 2A (or many other issues).Just read the 2012 Party Platforms of the respective parties regarding the Second Amendment:
Individuals within the respective parties may vary on their opinions. But when taken collectively, as a PARTY, as to which direction to take the Second Amendment (and I would argue the Constitution in general), there is no doubt that the Democrat Party is committed to weakening those rights.
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You say you voted for Obama and then said you are concerned about your gun rights.
Sorry, but you created this problem, you shouldn't get to complain about it at all.
It would be like letting a fox live in your henhouse and then expressing concern for your chickens.
And yet NEITHER candidate for POTUS in the last two elections has been in lockstep with their respective parties platforms on 2A (or many other issues).
Again -- I use the term "collectively." Which party leader is more likely to have an easier time rallying his respective party to a strong anti-2A position?
I'm not offering absolutes, but just looking at the two party platforms, I find more reason for confidence with one than the other.
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I find that through history both party leaders have had a very easy time of rejecting the respective platforms when it suited them yet have problems rallying their respective far-wings to do the same.
No, repeating the same action and expecting different results is called PRACTICE. You know, like throwing a baseball 1000 times makes you a better thrower or playing your sax for hours makes you a better musician.
Stupidest quote ever.
So can I take it you voted for Mitt Romney?
I didn't mean to imply conspiracy at all. My point is to illustrate and rebuke the underlying philosophy....but didn't think anyone would truly read some sinister looney left conspiracy into it. I'm disappointed to see that I was wrong.
Fellow gun owners and activists,
First know this...I'm with you on RKBA for sane, red-blooded Americans from the start. I've been on THR for 10 years as an advocate for 2A. I own multiple so-called "assault" weapons, handguns, shotguns, etc...
Yeah, this may be daring (and/or asking for trouble), but as a Texas Democrat, I want to make my voice heard on behalf of many other Dems.
I state the following hoping to remove a lot of the anti-Liberal non-2A crap I've been seeing over the years...both here on THR and from the NRA, of which I am proudly NOT a member. I know it's an uphill climb, but I won't stop until I've convinced everyone.
***I am not a single-issue voter, although the 2nd Amendment is a major issue for me.
***I voted for President Obama, as did a majority of Americans (thus, he's prez). I would eagerly vote for him again today.
***I voted for President Obama believing that he would not unduly curtail my 2nd Amendment rights.
In short, don't limit my mag cap, but do make sure I'm not cuckoo before letting me have an AR-15.
The government needs to be OUT of the business of controlling arms.