I am not stout enough...

[Afy]

I still am lusting after the 338 and will continue to do so. I do need to find a decent range I can get out to as well to really strech the legs on the beast.

I also do know I can get both the brake and a suppressor, and be happy shooting it with manageable recoil.

The budget of for the rifle, initial brass, scope, assecesories and ancilliaries will remain in the kitty for the time being. Which is not an inconsiderate amount.

But for the time being... the hunt for a 6.5x47 Lapua begins. Am looking a Keppeler for an out of the box solution... any experience? I dont want to go down to route of a custom solution on a Remington 700 action et al, since that is incredibly expensive in Europe. Buying a Keppeler or an AI etc would be cheaper....

 

[Heavy Metal Hero]

Not man enough? A .300 Win Mag will almost anything you could want to do.

 

[Afy]

Already have one ... a nice SHR 970 that I need a new barrell for... have shot about 2K through it... and am now having accuracy issues.

 

[gunnie]

"I wish it were just $60 was closer to 95 Euros"

"Ammunition costs a heck of a lot more in the EU than in the US. Taxes are a part of the issue, also they seem to think if ammo is really expensive people would be less liable to shoot each other."

Afy,

as fast as the dollar is falling against foreign currency, i'm sure the exchange rate has changed since your posting.

but even so, with heavy taxation, the 95 euros sounds WAY high here across the pond. what flavor was the box in question, black hills or lapua?

maybe US export tarrifs came into play if it is black hills ammo?

gunnie

for those curious, 95 euros X 1.576 exchange rate=$149.72 per box

 

[taliv]

yeah, at that rate, it would be cheaper for you to fly from europe to the mountain time zone, spend a week in a lodge, shoot your ammo up, and fly home.

 

[Caimlas]

Have you ever watched someone else fire off a few rounds from a certain rifle and noticed how little the rifle actually appears to push the operator? Then, when it's your turn to shoot, it feels like somebody driving a railroad spike in your shoulder with a sledgehammer!!! How can it look and feel so different?

Ive noticed the opposite, actually. They'll shoot, and it looks like someone punched them in the shoulder they move so much. Expecting pain, I give it a try and, while it stings a wee bit, it is by no means a punch. Yeah, it slaps like a barmaid, and yeah, a couple shots will likely leave a bruise there in the morning. But it's not -that- bad.

Biggest/best example I can think of is a semi-auto shotgun. I've seen full-grown and figured men kicked about by 'em, and they kick little more than a .223 AR.

 

[Caimlas]

Oh, and what in the world is 6.5x47? You're not referring to the 6.5 Grendel, are you (6.5x39)? Or something else? Never heard of it, personally.

 

[22-rimfire]

I considered a 338. Changed my mind. When it happens, I'm going straight to the 375 H&H which should complete my larger bore choices. It is low priority as I'm not headed for Alaska any time soon. Recoil, sure. I expect it. But I may not be man enough for sitting at the bench and banging away with it. In the woods, no problem.

 

[Gila Jorge]

I have both 300WinMag and 338WinMag along with a 375H&H and several other rifles...the worst recoil to me is with the 300WinMag, the others are not a bad nor is the flash as bad...possibly the 300 is overbore...I also shoot 7mmRM and 264WinMag...and they are just fine...I am getting a new 375RM
with the 23inch barrel...now that should be interesting...oh, I am 61...so age is not a factor in my estimation but gun fit is everything...get it fitted before you shoot it much...then make your decision...

 

[gunnie]

22-rimfire,

if hunting AK is the driving force, get the 375HH. the 338LM was designed by the navy, and later lapua as a long range cartridge. not saying it won't work on mr. brown in an alder thicket, just not its strong suit.

with lighter bullets the 375 shoots nearly as flat to 300yds as any commonly used belted win-mag cartridge.

[.338WM and below caliber]

for moose or brownie you'll be required to book a guided hunt, and most of my guide friends in AK cringe at the thought of an unknown quantity client shooting @ 300yd distances anyway.

gunnie

 

[rodregier]

Afy: If you are just punching paper at up to 400m then .338 LM is way beyond what you need. A nice 6.5 would be ideal. 6.5x.284 is the hot F-class cartridge for up to 900m, althought 6.5x55 has a lot of charm too, especially if you're limited to 400m.