I Have An Interview For A Security Firm Tomorrow

[Agsalaska]

Sounds like a good idea mosin. I would never encourage anyone to work at a job where they cannot come to terms with the rules laid forth by the company.

I wish you well in your new job.



And you are right about one thing on your previous post(for some reason my phone won't let me quot it). It can always go wrong no matter what you do. You can tell them to take everything and they may still kill you. But in the long run employees are safer when they fully cooperate.

 

[gym]

Like a few guys said, if this is going to scar your permanent record in the way of an arrest. Then I would not work there instead of carrying against their rules. If you get fired because of this, you will find it difficult to find another job because you would be classified a danger and a liar, and one who refused to follow company policy after being told what they expect from you. An arrest could cost you your license period.
I carried with the owners permission. Different situation.
I simply would not take that job, rather than go down this road. You need to determine which is more important to you. Internet forums are great but you can't base your life on the opinions of others about what you should do. What we would do dosen't matter. If arrested you are the one who will have the financial and physical obligation to pay for the breach in policy. Your decision should be based on your principals and the law.

 

[Capt. Ct.]

I worked for Securitas. During the training class they said NO weapons were allowed. I pulled out a little pocket knife and asked if this would be acceptable? OH NO! You could kill somebody with that!
In my state you not only need a ccw but a blue card to carry in the security field. You can only carry the one gun you qualified with. Yes, I know it's stupid.

 

[IlikeSA]

I work for a large security company that services hospitals, airports and local government contracts. People are correct in stating that it is up to the contractor in terms of what you can and cannot carry. My current location authorizes tasers, which are occasionally used on combative people. I know of several hospitals where metal detectors are in place and, if you are trained and authorized by the company, you can carry. Others have just a supervisor carry. Still others insist on no carry of anything. One that I know of has several part-time police officers working there, but they are not allowed to carry even a taser. I wouldn't risk it if I were you, or I would look for a company that will allow you to carry.

 

[paramedic70002]

"Yea. Let's just say you are in a position to make an employee firearms rule for the company you work for."

There's a big difference between authorizing 11,000 employees to carry their personal sidearms, and not prohibiting it. Maybe the corporate lawyers will disagree, but as an employer do you have to ban everything that might cause you liability? So an employer bans "weapons," do they include wire clothing hangars and fingernail files? Do they boilerplate the ban or just use it as an excuse to avoid liability? And as for caring for employees, sure they do, but they have a requirement to look after their investors as well. Sadly, the yearly dividends are more important than giving an employee the best option to defend themselves from robbery/murder.

 

[Agsalaska]

"Yea. Let's just say you are in a position to make an employee firearms rule for the company you work for."

There's a big difference between authorizing 11,000 employees to carry their personal sidearms, and not prohibiting it. Maybe the corporate lawyers will disagree, but as an employer do you have to ban everything that might cause you liability? So an employer bans "weapons," do they include wire clothing hangars and fingernail files? Do they boilerplate the ban or just use it as an excuse to avoid liability? And as for caring for employees, sure they do, but they have a requirement to look after their investors as well. Sadly, the yearly dividends are more important than giving an employee the best option to defend themselves from robbery/murder.

That last sentence is so tiring. Nothing is more important than the employees. Including the dividends. The vast majority of successful companies understand that their employees are their biggest asset.

There is really not a difference between the two in the eyes of the company. Either way you have people carrying firearms in your shop. The big problem with it is corporations have absolutely no way to know who is properly trained to handle a terrifying robbery situation(I am strictly referring to retail businesses that deal with the public.) Your not going to like this statement and someone will soon be on here telling me I am wrong, but employees are safer when you allow robbers to take the cash, jewelry, etc and get out without resistance. I have worked in companies that have had several hundred robberies happen without a single fatality. Do you think they would have been that kind of success if guns were allowed in the shops? The last thing a company wants is some legal CCW guy with a gun who does not train or really know what he is doing trying to defend already insured merchandise against armed men who already have the draw on them with three other employees in the building. That is not safe. That is why the lawyers, HR, and operators disagree with you, and thats why retail companies almost never allow for concealed carry. Its because they do carry about keeping there employees as safe as possible, not prevent it because of liability.

As for other work environments, like a insurance office, lawyers office, doctors office, thats much different.

 

[Steel Horse Rider]

^^^^^^^^
The responsibility factor is almost always left out of these types of discussions. When you look at how the average driver handles a motor vehicle the idea of 1000 employees of unknown abilities would scare the crap out of me. I only have 4 employees and we go shooting together so I don't have any prohibitions on them as to whether they want to carry or not while working but if I had a hundred employees I would probably feel different. As was stated above, a successful company treats its employees as an asset because the companies who do not value a good employee usually have a short lifespan....

 

[Agsalaska]

Steel Horse Rider you are my hero. Finally someone else sees it like a business owner. Thank you.