Load Data on .45 ACP 185 Grain JHP

[jrop11]

Do any of you have any load data on .45 ACP 185 Grain JHP with unique. My manual doesn't have any load data for this bullet.

Thanks!!

 

[rcmodel]

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/recipedetail.aspx?gtypeid=1&weight=185&shellid=35&bulletid=59

rc

 

[jrop11]

Thanks!

 

[Mags]

My LEE manual lists a starting load of 8.0 grains and a max of 8.2 grains with a minimium OAL of 1.275

 

[rcmodel]

Does your Lee manual tell you what brand of 185 bullet they are talking about?

OAL can be very different depending on the make & model (shape) of the bullet.

In this case, one size don't fit all.

And the OP never did say what brand of bullets he has either.

rc

 

[Mags]

No sir,
Just 185 grain JHP, I must say the data in the link you provided is for Gold Dots, and it suggests a load of 8.2 grains with a 1.2 min OAL.
I have used Gold dots in 9mm and the Ramshot data suggested a min OAL of 1.7 with XTPs but I sunk the GDHPs down to 1.65 with a medial charge of 4.3 grains of Shillouette and I thought the load was kind of weak. Thus proving your point for specifics in JHP loads. But I won't really know until I get a chrono.

 

[jrop11]

In my case I am using Nosler 185 grain JHP I'll start out with 7 grains Unique and work up from there.

 

[45ACPUSER]

No sir,
Just 185 grain JHP, I must say the data in the link you provided is for Gold Dots, and it suggests a load of 8.2 grains with a 1.2 min OAL.
I have used Gold dots in 9mm and the Ramshot data suggested a min OAL of 1.7 with XTPs but I sunk the GDHPs down to 1.65 with a medial charge of 4.3 grains of Shillouette and I thought the load was kind of weak. Thus proving your point for specifics in JHP loads. But I won't really know until I get a chrono.

Holy cow how in the world do you fit 9MM ammo loaded to a COAL of 1.7" in a magazine?
Not my idea of fun single loading a 9MM, let alone having the extractor snap over the case when you load them? How do they even chamber?

Hodgdon Powder Company
Cartridge Load Recipe Report - 7/21/2009
data.hodgdon.com 9mm Luger
Load Type: Pistol

Cartridge Information
Case: Winchester Barrel Length: 4"
Twist: 1:10" Trim Length: .750"
Primer: CCI 500

9mm Luger
Cartridge Load Data Starting Loads

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Maximum Loads

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Bullet Weight (Gr.) Powder Bullet Diam. C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure
90 GR. SPR GDHP Longshot .355" 1.010" 6.0 1278 29,400 PSI 7.0 1378 32,300 PSI
90 GR. SPR GDHP HS-6 .355" 1.010" 7.9 1361 27,400 CUP 8.2 1413 30,900 CUP
90 GR. SPR GDHP AutoComp .355" 1.010" 6.1 1255 27,700 PSI 6.5 1332 32,100 PSI
90 GR. SPR GDHP Universal .355" 1.010" 5.0 1170 25,700 CUP 5.5 1266 30,100 CUP
90 GR. SPR GDHP 231 .355" 1.010" 5.5 1312 25,400 CUP 5.8 1349 30,100 CUP
90 GR. SPR GDHP HP-38 .355" 1.010" 5.5 1312 25,400 CUP 5.8 1349 30,100 CUP
90 GR. SPR GDHP SR 7625 .355" 1.010" 4.9 1216 27,300 PSI 5.5 1292 30,600 PSI
90 GR. SPR GDHP PB .355" 1.010" 3.9 1141 27,200 PSI 4.3 1231 32,200 PSI
90 GR. SPR GDHP Titegroup .355" 1.010" 4.7 1239 25,700 CUP 5.0 1305 30,000 CUP
90 GR. SPR GDHP 700-X .355" 1.010" 4.1 1215 27,700 PSI 4.5 1279 32,200 PSI
95 GR. SIE FMJ Longshot .355" 1.020" 5.8 1192 25,800 PSI 6.8 1356 33,300 PSI
95 GR. SIE FMJ HS-6 .355" 1.020" 7.3 1232 26,500 CUP 7.8 1339 31,300 CUP
95 GR. SIE FMJ AutoComp .355" 1.010" 5.6 1216 27,300 PSI 6.1 1306 32,600 PSI
95 GR. SIE FMJ Universal .355" 1.020" 4.6 1182 26,800 CUP 5.2 1292 31,700 CUP
95 GR. SIE FMJ 231 .355" 1.020" 4.8 1189 26,300 CUP 5.3 1273 31,400 CUP
95 GR. SIE FMJ HP-38 .355" 1.020" 4.8 1189 26,300 CUP 5.3 1273 31,400 CUP
95 GR. SIE FMJ SR 7625 .355" 1.020" 4.9 1172 27,800 PSI 5.4 1259 32,500 PSI
95 GR. SIE FMJ PB .355" 1.020" 3.9 1075 25,400 PSI 4.3 1178 32,700 PSI
95 GR. SIE FMJ Titegroup .355" 1.020" 4.7 1241 28,500 CUP 5.0 1298 32,000 CUP
95 GR. SIE FMJ 700-X .355" 1.020" 4.1 1137 26,300 PSI 4.5 1224 31,500 PSI
100 GR. SPR FMJ Longshot .355" 1.050" 5.5 1158 26,500 PSI 6.5 1315 33,300 PSI
100 GR. SPR FMJ HS-6 .355" 1.050" 7.2 1270 23,900 CUP 7.5 1313 28,600 CUP
100 GR. SPR FMJ Universal .355" 1.050" 4.8 1119 27,200 CUP 5.3 1212 31,500 CUP
100 GR. SPR FMJ 231 .355" 1.050" 5.1 1218 25,200 CUP 5.5 1282 28,400 CUP
100 GR. SPR FMJ HP-38 .355" 1.050" 5.1 1218 25,200 CUP 5.5 1282 28,400 CUP
100 GR. SPR FMJ Titegroup .355" 1.050" 4.7 1234 28,300 CUP 5.0 1289 30,300 CUP
115 GR. FMJ WSF .355" 1.169" 4.9 1060 24,200 PSI 5.7 1195 31,900 PSI
115 GR. JHP WSF .355" 1.169" 5.2 1095 28,700 PSI 5.7 1165 32,100 PSI
115 GR. LRN Longshot .356" 1.100" 5.0 1032 20,200 CUP 6.0 1166 27,300 CUP
115 GR. LRN 800-X .356" 1.100" 4.5 1004 24,000 PSI 5.3 1128 28,200 PSI
115 GR. LRN SR 4756 .356" 1.100" 4.5 1027 25,000 PSI 5.2 1145 31,600 PSI
115 GR. LRN HS-6 .356" 1.100" 6.4 1117 27,900 CUP 6.9 1170 32,200 CUP
115 GR. LRN AutoComp .356" 1.100" 4.4 1002 24,800 PSI 5.1 1145 31,500 PSI
115 GR. LRN Universal .356" 1.100" 4.0 1034 24,400 CUP 4.5 1124 31,300 CUP
115 GR. LRN 231 .356" 1.100" 4.3 1079 28,400 CUP 4.8 1135 32,000 CUP
115 GR. LRN HP-38 .356" 1.100" 4.3 1079 28,400 CUP 4.8 1135 32,000 CUP
115 GR. LRN PB .356" 1.100" 3.3 974 26,900 PSI 3.7 1061 32,500 PSI
115 GR. LRN Titegroup .356" 1.100" 3.9 1075 25,800 CUP 4.3 1151 30,500 CUP
115 GR. LRN 700-X .356" 1.100" 3.3 986 25,200 PSI 3.7 1082 31,900 PSI
115 GR. LRN Clays .356" 1.100" 3.0 954 25,300 CUP 3.4 1039 31,000 CUP
115 GR. SPR GDHP 700-X .355" 1.125" 3.9 991 26,000 PSI 4.2 1091 31,900 PSI
115 GR. SPR GDHP Longshot .355" 1.125" 5.0 1127 29,000 PSI 6.0 1203 32,300 PSI
115 GR. SPR GDHP HS-6 .355" 1.125" 6.7 1171 26,700 CUP 7.0 1234 29,400 CUP
115 GR. SPR GDHP AutoComp .355" 1.125" 5.1 1078 28,200 PSI 5.6 1161 32,500 PSI
115 GR. SPR GDHP Universal .355" 1.125" 4.5 1029 27,400 CUP 5.0 1149 31,200 CUP
115 GR. SPR GDHP 231 .355" 1.125" 4.7 1075 25,300 CUP 5.1 1167 28,100 CUP
115 GR. SPR GDHP HP-38 .355" 1.125" 4.7 1075 25,300 CUP 5.1 1167 28,100 CUP
115 GR. SPR GDHP SR 7625 .355" 1.125" 4.5 1031 28,000 PSI 4.9 1113 32,300 PSI
115 GR. SPR GDHP PB .355" 1.125" 3.6 957 28,300 PSI 4.0 1038 32,000 PSI
115 GR. SPR GDHP Titegroup .355" 1.125" 4.5 1135 29,500 CUP 4.8 1158 30,500 CUP
115 GR. SPR GDHP Clays .355" 1.125" 3.7 1066 30,900 CUP 3.9 1095 32,600 CUP
124 GR. FMJ WSF .355" 1.169" 4.7 1015 27,700 PSI 5.3 1115 32,700 PSI
124 GR. LEAD RN WSF .355" 1.169" 4.0 945 22,200 PSI 4.7 1055 27,300 PSI
125 GR. LCN Longshot .356" 1.125" 5.0 1052 24,700 CUP 5.7 1115 28,300 CUP
125 GR. LCN 800-X .356" 1.125" 4.5 1015 24,900 PSI 5.0 1051 26,200 PSI
125 GR. LCN SR 4756 .356" 1.125" 4.2 972 24,400 PSI 4.8 1071 30,200 PSI
125 GR. LCN HS-6 .356" 1.125" 5.9 1023 24,400 CUP 6.6 1124 30,700 CUP
125 GR. LCN AutoComp .356" 1.125" 4.3 1012 26,700 PSI 4.8 1101 32,800 PSI
125 GR. LCN Universal .356" 1.125" 3.8 993 24,400 CUP 4.3 1096 31,300 CUP
125 GR. LCN 231 .356" 1.125" 3.9 1009 25,700 CUP 4.4 1086 31,200 CUP
125 GR. LCN HP-38 .356" 1.125" 3.9 1009 25,700 CUP 4.4 1086 31,200 CUP
125 GR. LCN SR 7625 .356" 1.125" 3.6 933 24,600 PSI 4.1 1035 31,200 PSI
125 GR. LCN PB .356" 1.125" 2.9 908 25,500 PSI 3.4 1004 34,000 PSI
125 GR. LCN Titegroup .356" 1.125" 3.6 1002 22,900 CUP 4.0 1096 30,400 CUP
125 GR. LCN 700-X .356" 1.125" 2.9 899 23,700 PSI 3.4 1003 31,600 PSI
125 GR. LCN Clays .356" 1.125" 2.9 899 22,700 CUP 3.3 993 30,900 CUP
125 GR. SIE FMJ Longshot .355" 1.090" 4.7 1022 28,100 PSI 5.7 1162 33,400 PSI
125 GR. SIE FMJ SR 4756 .355" 1.090" 4.5 973 25,700 PSI 4.9 1037 28,700 PSI
125 GR. SIE FMJ HS-6 .355" 1.090" 6.4 1131 25,600 CUP 6.8 1169 27,100 CUP
125 GR. SIE FMJ AutoComp .355" 1.090" 4.7 1055 28,900 PSI 5.2 1120 33,300 PSI
125 GR. SIE FMJ Universal .355" 1.090" 4.3 1031 26,900 CUP 4.9 1118 30,600 CUP
125 GR. SIE FMJ 231 .355" 1.090" 4.4 1009 24,600 CUP 4.8 1088 28,800 CUP
125 GR. SIE FMJ HP-38 .355" 1.090" 4.4 1009 24,600 CUP 4.8 1088 28,800 CUP
125 GR. SIE FMJ SR 7625 .355" 1.090" 4.1 996 28,900 PSI 4.6 1074 33,700 PSI
125 GR. SIE FMJ PB .355" 1.090" 3.2 887 25,600 PSI 3.6 974 33,500 PSI
125 GR. SIE FMJ Titegroup .355" 1.090" 4.1 1069 27,300 CUP 4.4 1136 30,600 CUP
125 GR. SIE FMJ 700-X .355" 1.090" 3.0 845 21,600 PSI 3.6 1007 31,000 PSI
125 GR. SIE FMJ Clays .355" 1.090" 3.5 1010 28,000 CUP 3.7 1056 32,500 CUP
130 GR. SIE FMJ Longshot .355" 1.120" 4.5 960 26,200 PSI 5.5 1117 33,500 PSI
130 GR. SIE FMJ SR 4756 .355" 1.120" 4.4 919 23,400 PSI 4.8 1009 28,700 PSI
130 GR. SIE FMJ HS-6 .355" 1.120" 6.3 981 23,200 CUP 6.6 1090 26,900 CUP
130 GR. SIE FMJ AutoComp .355" 1.120" 4.4 933 24,900 PSI 5.0 1055 31,800 PSI
130 GR. SIE FMJ Universal .355" 1.120" 4.2 974 27,200 CUP 4.7 1058 30,400 CUP
130 GR. SIE FMJ 231 .355" 1.120" 4.3 978 25,300 CUP 4.6 1050 28,300 CUP
130 GR. SIE FMJ HP-38 .355" 1.120" 4.3 978 25,300 CUP 4.6 1050 28,300 CUP
130 GR. SIE FMJ SR 7625 .355" 1.120" 4.0 951 26,300 PSI 4.5 1036 31,200 PSI
130 GR. SIE FMJ PB .355" 1.120" 3.2 856 23,900 PSI 3.6 970 32,600 PSI
130 GR. SIE FMJ Titegroup .355" 1.120" 4.1 1070 30,100 CUP 4.4 1102 32,500 CUP
130 GR. SIE FMJ 700-X .355" 1.120" 3.0 870 23,100 PSI 3.6 990 30,400 PSI
147 GR. FMJ WSF .355" 1.169" 3.9 895 28,400 PSI 4.3 950 32,300 PSI
147 GR. HDY XTP Longshot .355" 1.100" 3.8 851 25,700 PSI 4.7 1004 33,800 PSI
147 GR. HDY XTP 800-X .355" 1.100" 3.5 808 25,600 PSI 4.0 883 28,900 PSI
147 GR. HDY XTP SR 4756 .355" 1.100" 3.0 668 21,800 PSI 3.6 834 29,900 PSI
147 GR. HDY XTP HS-6 .355" 1.100" 4.3 773 20,200 CUP 5.0 885 27,900 CUP
147 GR. HDY XTP AutoComp .355" 1.100" 3.6 827 27,900 PSI 4.0 916 32,800 PSI
147 GR. HDY XTP Universal .355" 1.100" 3.0 803 24,100 CUP 3.3 869 31,000 CUP
147 GR. HDY XTP SR 7625 .355" 1.100" 2.8 707 24,000 PSI 3.3 844 32,900 PSI
147 GR. HDY XTP Titegroup .355" 1.100" 3.2 855 22,500 CUP 3.6 929 27,500 CUP
147 GR. HDY XTP 700-X .355" 1.100" 2.6 764 27,300 PSI 2.9 838 32,000 PSI
147 GR. JHP WSF .355" 1.169" 4.0 900 30,100 PSI 4.3 935 32,300 PSI
147 GR. LEAD CFP WSF .355" 1.169" 3.7 905 28,500 PSI 4.1 965 32,800 PSI


NEVER EXCEED MAXIMUM LOADS

From Ramshot
9mm Luger
Barrel: 4" ■ Twist: 1-10" ■ Primer: FED 100 ■ Bullet Diameter .355"
Bullet Weight(Grains) Bullet Make BulletType Start Load (Grains) Start Velocity (fps) Max Load (Grains) Max Load Velocity (fps) Max Load Pressure (psi) COL (inch)
True Blue 115 SIE FMJ 5.8 1,067 6.4 1,185 32,500 1.110
True Blue 125 SIE FMJ 5.4 1,004 6.0 1,115 32,500 1.130
True Blue 147 HDY HP XTP 4.5 833 5.0 926 34,000 1.125
Silhouette 115 NOS JHP 5.3 1,055 6.0 1,155 32,100 1.169
Silhouette 124 HDY HP XTP 4.9 1,005 5.6 1,105 33,300 1.169
Silhouette 147 HDY HP XTP 4.1 870 4.5 930 33,300 1.169
Lead Bullets
ZIP 115 LC RN 4.3 1,062 4.8 1,180 31,280 1.128
ZIP 122 MCB TC BB 3.9 959 4.3 1,065 32,500 1.128
ZIP 147 LC FP BB 3.3 842 3.7 935 34,500 1.140
True Blue 115 LC RN 5.8 1,068 6.4 1,187 31,940 1.128
True Blue 124 LC RN 5.6 1,019 6.2 1,132 32,250 1.122
True Blue 147 LC FP BB 4.5 872 5.0 969 32,270 1.135
Barnes XPB Bullets
ZIP 115 BAR XPB 3.3 876 3.7 973 32,540 1.160
True Blue 115 BAR XPB 4.4 902 4.9 1,002 32,150 1.160
Silhouette 115 BAR XPB 4.8 1,003 5.3 1,114 34,030 1.160
Frangible Bullets
ZIP 90 SF RHFP 3.9 1,064 4.3 1,182 34,030 1.120
ZIP 100 SF RHFP 3.6 993 4.0 1,103 34,550 1.120
True Blue 90 SF RHFP 5.2 1,082 5.8 1,202 33,680 1.120
True Blue 100 SF RHFP 4.8 995 5.3 1,106 34,170 1.120
Silhouette 90 SF RHFP 5.8 1,207 6.4 1,341 34,910 1.120
Silhouette 100 SF RHFP 5.2 1,108 5.8 1,231 34,980 1.120

 

[Mags]

How do they even chamber?

I don't know I sunk mine to 1.65 instead of the recommended 1.69, if that makes much a difference when I get a Chrony I wil test this load and if its fast enough I will leave it alone. Otherwise it will get sunk more depending on the FPS.

 

[Steve C]

I load Remington 185gr JHP's in the .45 acp on top of 7.7 gr of Unique. This load Chrono's an average velocity range of 1,060 fps from a Sig220 to 1,094 fps from a 1911 Government model.

 

[Ol` Joe]

I don't know I sunk mine to 1.65 instead of the recommended 1.69, if that makes much a difference when I get a Chrony I wil test this load and if its fast enough I will leave it alone. Otherwise it will get sunk more depending on the FPS.

I think you are reading the max recommended lgt wrong. The SAAMI/CIP max for the 9mm Luger is 1.169" your 1.65" COL is almost 1/2 inch longer.