lloveless
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Which is why I carry a revolver. If you're in the midst of an mano a mano confrontaiton it is more likely for a pistol to jam than a revolver, as you struggle for dominance.
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More likely he walked away from a thread that deteriorated into silly, useless posturing and blather, benefiting nobody and going nowhere. If you don't want a mousegun or back-up with doublestrike capability, then don't buy one. Some of us do... as simple as that. I've carried one for years and will continue to do so. Thanks for your interest in my life.
MisterMike said:The guy asks a question, hoping for a helpful response, and the self-appointed experts jump all over him. Not very High Road . . . .
No Mike, tackstrp asked the question.
Many of us pointed out the answer he was searching for to solve his problem wasn't a good solution. .
danez71 said:He still has the option to train for tap rack and boom.... but having a 2nd strike ability as a plan C is not a bad thing
tackstrp said:because of age and physical disability in my left arm. it is difficult to rack the slide with out changing hands. otherwise i am limited to revolvers.
The majority of the posts were telling him he's wrong for considering guns with 2nd strike (some with good data to support the POTENTIAL downsides)
People mean well with the information provided but everyone has preferences and nobody has the authority to tell you what you should like
Dane,
Now knowing that, do you still feel that recommending a gun he can't overcome the recoil spring to work the slide on as a carry gun?
For what its worth (not much really), I would say that in my life Ive had probably 10 FTF (center fire hand guns) and probably 6-7 of them did fire when re-loaded and fired again (.22lr excluded).
There's a big difference between exercising a second-strike and re-chambering a cartridge.
I've had probably a dozen-odd light strikes with a FEG PA-63, all in one session. This was one light strike for every 10-12 rounds, maybe. I had lightened the mainspring by half a coil, and I was shooting old, surplus ammo. Second and third strikes never worked. I mixed up DA second strikes and manually cocked ones (in case the longer SA hammer drop might work). Zero success. Well, to be honest, I probably stopped trying a second-strike, at all, after the first 7-8 duds, rather than all 12 or so. So the bright side, IMO, is that I learned to stop wasting my time. (And I was just punching paper, not playing Rambo games.)
Every single one of these "duds" fired on the first try after being ejected, examined (single depression on each primer), set aside, and re-chambered.
For anyone whose first reaction to a failure-to-fire would be to pull the trigger - again... I'll just say there are several gun schools that would take your money in order to retrain you of this bad habit. Or you could cut a coil off your mainspring and unlearn it for yourself. I guess another way of putting it is this: "Tap, rack, bang" drill isn't Rambo crap. It's common sense that anyone would figure out for themselves, if they had the opportunity to experience enough light strikes and/or other FTF's on their own.
To recap: The "Tap, Rack, Bang" drill is for Rambo AND for regular people punching paper. The "click, click, click" drill is for people who haven't yet experienced HOW and WHY it's the definition of stupidity to repeat the same thing and expect a different result.
Of course, having a second-strike capability can't hurt you in a defensive situation... as long as you ignore it. +1 to Rexster.
to much advice . will buy a sig p238
Check out the sig p238, it's SAO, but the slide is very easy to cycle, especially in the "equinox" version because the serrations are so sharp.because of age and physical disability in my left arm. it is difficult to rack the slide with out changing hands. otherwise i am limited to revolvers.