I had shot up all the 80 grain variety before I realized that the other package had 130 grain bullets in it. So, I didn't chronograph the 80s but am willing to bet the velocities are about what you get with balls which are the same weight - 1,000- 1,100 fps. The picture group is two handed standing at 25 yards with the 80 grain bulletand is way bigger than the capability of the bullet. I was shooting in gale force winds with the sun right in my eyes and the front sight looking like a pillar of fire. The group with the 130 grain bullet was about 3.5 wide by 5 tall- again blaimed on the conditions. The 80 grain hit exactly on with my ball -set sights The 130s were two to three inches higher. I found that 22 gr /vol of Pyrodex P would work under both weights and I believe that black powder would compress enough for that charge to work with it also. my notion is that both bullets are about as accurate as a round ball or so close that I wouldn't be able to prove the difference.
Interestingly the advertised energy of a .38 special round nose given 870 fps/ 158 grain bullet its 265 foot pounds. This load gets 269 ft/lbs.
If I had seen any problems with this bullet or anything at all that might need to be changed, I would have PMed Manyirons rather than open posting. I have no suggestions for any changes at all or any complaints. The bullets drop into the chambers flush almost flush with the mouth. They are easier to load than round ball or any traditional rebated base conical bullets. The seat with good pressure in the fairly large Uberti chambers and there is no bullet walk. I shot one of them into two one gallon water jugs and the first ruptured very impressively. Second one busted open pretty good too. Bullet went through both jugs a thin piece of rot-wood and either buried in a cedar log or bounced away.
Tried finding some of them in dirt but never did. I wanted to look at the rifling engraving . I know that there is full lenth contact as the small diameter portion of the bullets will not go into the barrel either at the muzzle or forcing cone.
On- target signatures are the same as truncated cone wadcutter bullets
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Even found a book about the guy, "Germans and Texans" by Walter Struve, himself a descendant of the old boy. I gotta say, I've been called a lot worse names and nothing I can type here without getting censored. :banghead: