Meth lab weapons cache

[bogie]

Legalize it, tax it to cover any consequences, and the price will still be lower than in the violence-laden black market.

And a free market will sort out any ugliness. Yeah, a company may try something, but if they get caught, they get sued.

 

[pacodelahoya]

Shaughn,

Ok, let's look at this problem for a second. Honestly, would you or do you know know anyone who would run out to the pharmacy and buy a bottle of meth or a baggie of heroin tomorrow if it were made legal? Now, I'm not talking about coke or weed, just the harder drugs(even though I personally consider cocaine a hard drug).

I don't. I do know meth heads and heroin addicts, have em in my family. They have no problem getting their drugs. Other than having to go into the hood to get them. I don't know of one person that would say"Gee, I wish heroin was legal, I really would like to chase the dragon today, oh well". If they want to do heroin, they go and get heroin. Those that don't want to do it, WON'T.

The point I am trying to make is that there are types of people that cannot or will not deal with reality so they try and escape it any way they can. Some through drugs, some through sex some through suicide, doesn't matter.The fact that something is or is not legal doesn't stop them from the illegal activity. Making it illegal does however afford an opportunity for bootlegging and the black market. Take away the illegality of the item, be it guns, drugs, booze, anything, then you take away the black market.

Look at cigarettes, cheap in the south, highly taxed in the north. The gov wants you to stop smoking in the commie states so they try to make it cost prohibitive by taxing it highly. All that does is open up an avenue for illegal trafficking. Capitalism at it's finest, God bless America.

 

[bogie]

Actually, in states like Kentucky, if the legislatures try to pass a tobacco tax, the farmers get all twitchy.

Now, how can we turn this around to work FOR the second amendment?

Prohibition does not work. If Sarah and Nancy melted down every boomstick in the country tomorrow, we wouldn't be looking for sharp sticks - instead, I suspect that thousands of "illicit machine shops" would spring up in folks' basements.

 

[pacodelahoya]

Exactly Bogie, works with anything you try to make illegal that people want.

 

[Elza]

If I may I would like to place the following in the discussion arena:

“Drugs are the worst thing on earth. Since I believe this to be true people should not be allowed to do it. (Arrest and jail time.)”

“Cigarettes are the worst thing on earth. Since I believe this to be true people should not be allowed to use them. (Harassment, ridicules taxes, and ultimately outlaw them.)”

I have heard the first and (as a smoker) experienced the second. How is this any different from:

“People get killed from gun usage. Since I believe this to be true people should not be allowed to have them. (Outlaw ownership of guns.)


For the record I personally have zero use for drugs. The only one I use is tobacco and have never even tried a street drug of any kind. However my views toward tobacco are defiantly slanted. The legalizing of drugs by some European countries turned out to be a disaster. But, again, this is my opinion. My opinion should NOT dictate what others wish to do.

People really need to get over the selfish/politically correct “my rights are more important than your rights so your rights don’t count” B.S. Until then NONE of us are going to be able to pursue happiness. What our definition of happiness is shouldn’t matter.

 

[Thain]

Everything on the list of currently banned narcotics was legal in this country until the 1930's or 1940's. Somehow, we managed to do just fine... During that sapn we won a few wars, built a nation, invented the ice cream cone...

Look at it this way: we spend billions each year trying to keep drugs off the street, and have neglible impact. Stop spending, start taxing!