AABEN
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It is always best to have a lot of ammo on hand!! You can put it up in ammo cans to keep it good. Keep it where the temp does not make a big change!
more guns or ammo??
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Fishslayer
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There are already cities in California that prohibit mail order handgun ammo sales.
We had AB962 that would have done that (among other things) statewide but it was overturned in the courts more for wording than any 2A problems.
MachIVshooter
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Firearms should be purchased based on need/want and available funds. Sounds like the OP may be short on the latter.
Ammunition should be purchased based on the same factors, but also with consideration for use.
I have 3 rifles chambered in 6.5x52mm carcano. I have maybe 200 rounds of that ammo, which will probably last a decade.
I have 3 rifles and 2 pistols chambered in 5.56x45mm, and keep at least 2,000 rounds on hand. If I stopped buying and just shot what I had, I'd be out in a few months.
In short, ignore the silly formulas people come up with (min 1000 rounds per caliber nonsense and the like) and buy according to need and budget. That said, if you can afford more, the stuff certainly isn't going to get cheaper, so stock up.
Ammunition should be purchased based on the same factors, but also with consideration for use.
I have 3 rifles chambered in 6.5x52mm carcano. I have maybe 200 rounds of that ammo, which will probably last a decade.
I have 3 rifles and 2 pistols chambered in 5.56x45mm, and keep at least 2,000 rounds on hand. If I stopped buying and just shot what I had, I'd be out in a few months.
In short, ignore the silly formulas people come up with (min 1000 rounds per caliber nonsense and the like) and buy according to need and budget. That said, if you can afford more, the stuff certainly isn't going to get cheaper, so stock up.
Queen_of_Thunder
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oldbear
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Put $25.00 of that $50.00 - $75.00 a week in a safe place. Now buy a decent amount of ammo for the weapons you have. Once you have a decent stash of ammo start saving for your next firearm. Only pay cash, no credit cards, as it's to easy to run up a lot more debt than you thought you had.
leadcounsel
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If you buy guns and ammo wisely I doubt you'll ever lose money on it. Guns and ammo tend to either keep pace with inflaction or exceed it, provided well maintained/stored.
Ignition Override
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David E.
My impressions were probably mistaken.
Thanks for the very informative link by Dick Morris. If his statements are accurate, some of the possibilities are very sobering.
My impressions were probably mistaken.
Thanks for the very informative link by Dick Morris. If his statements are accurate, some of the possibilities are very sobering.
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I have little desire to add weapons to my collection just for the sake of ownership. There are tasks that I deem essential that I need weapons for and shooting interests I like to participate in.
They are:
CCW- A .38 or .357 snubby
Home Defense/Target shooting/plinking- Hi cap 9mm is my choice
Hunting / defensive use - short barreled shotgun w/ sights using slugs & buckshot
Wingshooting/clays - A good target shotgun
Plinking/small game - your choice of .22's, I like Ruger 10/22's
Target/varmint/defensive rifle - An AR properly configured, mine is an RRA national match flattop with a good scope in a qd mount.
For me 6 guns get it done for the essentials, 2 handguns, 2 shotguns & 2 rifles, anything ,beyond is spares or a peripheral interest. Your needs & interests may require more or less. If you have the guns you deem essential then buying additional is unneeded. However I note you only have .22's and shotguns, if you feel no need for anything more I'd start stocking up on ammo. But if you want something more, particularly in a hi-cap semi auto then I would start working to acquire them using the former assault weapons ban as a guideline.
As to ammo, a gun without it is an expensive club. We had a recent object lesson in limited ammo availability after the 2008 election. If Obama is re-elected he's already stated his intent for more gun laws in the second debate so I would expect a very similar happening after this election. I'd be more worried about ammo availability then gun availability for now.
They are:
CCW- A .38 or .357 snubby
Home Defense/Target shooting/plinking- Hi cap 9mm is my choice
Hunting / defensive use - short barreled shotgun w/ sights using slugs & buckshot
Wingshooting/clays - A good target shotgun
Plinking/small game - your choice of .22's, I like Ruger 10/22's
Target/varmint/defensive rifle - An AR properly configured, mine is an RRA national match flattop with a good scope in a qd mount.
For me 6 guns get it done for the essentials, 2 handguns, 2 shotguns & 2 rifles, anything ,beyond is spares or a peripheral interest. Your needs & interests may require more or less. If you have the guns you deem essential then buying additional is unneeded. However I note you only have .22's and shotguns, if you feel no need for anything more I'd start stocking up on ammo. But if you want something more, particularly in a hi-cap semi auto then I would start working to acquire them using the former assault weapons ban as a guideline.
As to ammo, a gun without it is an expensive club. We had a recent object lesson in limited ammo availability after the 2008 election. If Obama is re-elected he's already stated his intent for more gun laws in the second debate so I would expect a very similar happening after this election. I'd be more worried about ammo availability then gun availability for now.
76shuvlinoff
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Over the years I have acquired enough calibers in both long a short firearms that now I casually shop for ammo deals. Life and work have kept me so busy the last few years that recreational shooting is a distant memory. I pick up ammo here and there so when I do get the free time I am going to be able to feed my guilty pleasure.
As far as any possible weapons bans go, threads like these make me think I might oughta pick up a few Pmags .
As far as any possible weapons bans go, threads like these make me think I might oughta pick up a few Pmags .
we are not amused
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If Obama is reelected, I am not too worried about an outright ban. Despite any desires on his part, he will still have to get Congress on board for anything serious, which should gives us plenty of warning of what is coming. Provided Congress has any desire to risk getting burned again.
I would expect him to use his power to write regulations to try and make things more difficult to buy and sell guns and ammo, but I see no reason for panic buying.
Ammunition does however keep for a very long time, and is unlikely, given the cost of lead and copper to go down anytime soon. So some reasonable expenditures are planned for the near future. As are a couple of gun purchases, not based upon whether or not Obama is reelected, but whether I have any money left after paying Property taxes, they went up unexpectedly last year.
I would expect him to use his power to write regulations to try and make things more difficult to buy and sell guns and ammo, but I see no reason for panic buying.
Ammunition does however keep for a very long time, and is unlikely, given the cost of lead and copper to go down anytime soon. So some reasonable expenditures are planned for the near future. As are a couple of gun purchases, not based upon whether or not Obama is reelected, but whether I have any money left after paying Property taxes, they went up unexpectedly last year.
Ignition Override
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we are not amused:
Even if he gets reelected, if the White House tried to push some AWB through Congress, couldn't this easily reduce the chance that "they" could hold/keep a majority in the Senate?
If so, are they astute enough to avoid such a bill? This could then mean that their only path might be a new "red" appointee to the Supreme Court, and creeping, low-profile changes enacted by the ATF, EPA etc.
Even if he gets reelected, if the White House tried to push some AWB through Congress, couldn't this easily reduce the chance that "they" could hold/keep a majority in the Senate?
If so, are they astute enough to avoid such a bill? This could then mean that their only path might be a new "red" appointee to the Supreme Court, and creeping, low-profile changes enacted by the ATF, EPA etc.
5.56 stuff mainly.
But like I said, all the distributors have stocked up, so it'll be interesting to see what happens.
That's exactly what I would expect. If the climate isn't right for what they/he wants to do, they'll/he'll look for more "creative" ways.
Can you be more specific?
What loads are on backorder for a year?
Can you tell us even just one specific load that is on backorder for a year?
I'm having a hard time believing that there are multiple loads on a 1+ year backorder.
BTW: Here is the .223/5.56 bulk ammo pile at my LGS:
MIL-DOT
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THANKS !!! Finally, I've been wondering for friggin' YEARS how you guys were doing that here
.Ignition Override
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Warp: Are you sure that you want to post a photo with many cases of ammo?
You know what often happens when we keep seeing such delicious photos.
My wife told me that it is very insidious.
You know what often happens when we keep seeing such delicious photos.
My wife told me that it is very insidious.
Reloadron
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OMG Warp, looks like my friends shop. He got this bad feeling about ammunition and dropped about $70,000 on ammo. Everything you can imagine. This created a logistics problem even in the large shop. Even the rest room has cases stacked. His thinking is if the prices skyrocket he is in great shape. Personally, while I have a great stash I am not about to deplete one of the 401K accounts to buy boolits!
Ron
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Did I mention that there is even more on the other side that doesn't fit on the pallet?
Or that the higher end stuff is on the shelves behind the counter, and not on the pallet?
Or that the gun racks running down the middle of the floor start a couple feet up so that the space underneath can hold many pallets worth of bulk ammo in the other calibers?
justice06rr
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More ammo is what I always say. How are you gonna feed all those mags without any significant amount of ammo?
well i have an update on my decision, i will be buying more ammo for awhile with very little put back for a gun. my wife and i sat down last nite and she said a few things that were true so i got to change a few things. i have been buying ammo for several months and she hasn't got to get her much of anything extra, so i'm giving her $200 or more extra a month if i have it and that leaves me about $50 so i'm gonna get ammo. she is a great pro gun wife, she will only shoot 22's but believes in anyone lawabiding owning anything. she loves wild game and is a great cook, wife, and mother, we have a 17 month old so her daily work is probably harder than mine. we don't have alot of income compared to most people, we just recently got our place paid off so that helps. i could go in debt again to get a gun but i like not having any bills except the regular house bills. but she did hint around about getting a 22 of some sort. thanks
22-rimfire
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I think this statement which is quite common here on the forums is absolutely not correct. Unless you have guns that are years old.... you will likely be selling them at a loss. Value is a relative thing. If you sell that Remington M700 made in the 70's, yes it will likely sell for more than you paid for it then, but try buying a replacement for the amount you just got selling the older gun.
The only ones that win selling guns with any regularity are people that pay a lot of attention and have the ability or willingness to wait for their price to be met. That is a bit hard when you are lugging that M700 around a gun show and want to sell it today because you want to buy some food, or put that toward the rent or mortgage.
I do have guns that will sell for far more than I paid for them. But in reality, most were purchased because I really liked them and not for re-sale value. Most were pruchased 20 years ago also.
Old Fart: I think what you are doing is prefectly reasonable. You do have to keep the peace. Didn't know you had a 17 mo child to take care of. Tough one. Sounds like you "inherited" the child so to speak from one of your kids. I know the usual reasons for this, so I won't even go there.
If things got "rough" for whatever reason, I'd give you enough ammo to defend house and home assuming I had the calibers on hand. I believe you live in the south if I recall. A friend called me yesterday and mentioned he was layed off. He has been scrambling to make ends meet. I know how important his cell phone is to him and I told him that if it came down to having the phone turned off, I'd help him with that. Without the ability to communicate, he would be at a severe disadvantage to correct his situation.
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splattergun
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A gun without ammunition is merely a club. Ammunition without a gun is merely weight.
Balance both.
My too scents.
Balance both.
My too scents.
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