Mosin Nagant bayonet tactics?

[greyhound]

So as opposed to the type of bayonet you see on say, an M1 - i.e. basically a knife that attaches to the barrel, the M-N has a long, four bladed bayonet that (I assume) wasn't very sharp? I base this on the fact that mine is like that, but I can't see how you could keep 4 edges sharp.

Anyone know what the Red Army tactics were with this thing? Still feels like you could run someone through with it , but that unlike "knife" bayonets was useless for slashing and cutting.

I am curious on the sublect, and admit I know nothing about it...

 

[Nightcrawler]

99% of bayonet drills involve stabbing. Many blade bayonets aren't all that sharp either, and a slash isn't likely to do serious damage.

Typically, the soldier uses his rifle to knock his opponent's out of the way, then plunges the bayonet deep into his guts. You remove the bayonet, and follow up with a buttstroke if necessary.

 

[BowStreetRunner]

mmmm.....graphic
BSR

 

[Nightcrawler]

Think that's graphic? When I was in basic training, bayonet day was interesting. We all got into the fighting stance, and all had to yell KILLLLLL!!!!

Drill Sergeant: What is the Spirit of the Bayonet??

Us: To KILL, KILL, KILL WITHOUT MERCY, SERGEANT!!

Drill Sergeant: What makes the green grass grow??

Us: BLOOD, BLOOD, BRIGHT RED BLOOD SERGEANT!!!

LOL

 

[clubsoda22]

I guess the fact that blood will actually kill the grass slipped his mind

next time yell: "PHOTOSYNTHESIS SERGEANT!"

 

[Nightcrawler]

next time yell: "PHOTOSYNTHESIS SERGEANT!"

No thank you. I had my fill of push-ups in basic, thank you.

 

[clubsoda22]

little PT never hurt anyone.

Reason i never joined ROTC was because despite my proficiency with arms and my encyclopedic military knoledge (ROTC cadets actually come to me for help in mil sci), i'd make a lousy drone.

 

[Moparmike]

You and me both clubsoda. I really want to be a squid (always had a hankering for being a Tomcat driver), but found out that I get seasick (15ft waves, 30 ft boat. Never go fishing in the Carribean after a night of 100yr old Tequila...)

<Yoda>
A good drone does not an independent person make. Mmmmm?
</Yoda>

 

[clubsoda22]

A good drone does not an independent person make. Mmmmm?

Yeah, but it's useless if your DI kills you in basic for being a pain is the a$$

 

[Nightcrawler]

You're only a mindless drone in the military if you're inclined to be a mindless drone in the first place.

I've seen more droning and groupthink coming out of college fraternaties than I have in any military unit.

 

[Navy joe]

Spike bayonets are generally considered more useful than bladed ones because they are easier to penetrate and withdraw with.

 

[4v50 Gary]

The triangular bayonets of the 18th Century were noted for making nasty wounds that were difficult to sew up or treat. Knife bladed bayonets on the other hand are more humane. The Russians knew what they were doing when they retained the older style bayonet.

 

[GigaBuist]

A kid about 10 or 12 years old saw me with my MN M44 at the range a month or so back. He asked what the thing on the side of the rifle was so I folded it out and told him,

"Well, the Russians put this on there in case the ran out of ammo. You could use it to "poke" other guy a little bit."

I was trying not to be graphic about it.

His response, "Man, you could probably stab somebody and kill 'em with that!"

Me: "Yeah, that was pretty much the idea."

 

[Houndawg]

The bayonet that came with my 91/30 is pretty sharp at the tip. It wouldn't take much at all for it to penetrate.


Moparmike,

Seasickness is common for anyone who isn't used to being on a boat. Once you get your sea legs, there's no problem. If you gave up a chance to be a Turkey driver because you get seasick, then you didn't really want to be a Turkey driver.

 

[Moparmike]

Well, as much as I want to become a Turkey driver, my eyes say I cant. I cant see the dash clearly without my glasses unless I squint, much less my hood ornament or the road in front of me.

 

[Houndawg]

Vision is a different story. It's kept me from doing lots of things. Have you looked into surgery? Strapping a fighter to your ??? and landing on a moving postage stamp is an enviable goal. I would stop at nothing to acheive it. I think the military is accepting laser corrected eyes into flight school. You better have a STRONG technical/engineering background. Fighter jocks these days are wiz kids. Flight school is very competitive and everybody wants to drive the fast movers.