My FFL's wants to have me arrested...

[P95Carry]

The decline in numbers of good gun stores is worrying enough - in itself ..... but also I sure do wish these examples of a***ole FFL's was less prevalent. It's a sad trend.

IMO, A bona fide FFL should know enough of the laws (prerequisite in fact) .. fed and state ... to a) be able to advise his customers ..... who let's face it may not always be too clued up, and b) To protect his own a$$.!!

Also, IMO - an FFL should be at least reasonably knowledgeable about his goods .. both firearms and accessories .... again so he can advise and therefore probably gain a reputation for knowledge and helpfullness ... all good for business.! My most local guy is pretty good .. and at least honest when he doesn't know something .. he'll ask openly. I can go with that.

 

[Standing Wolf]

I heard the exact same thing—short of threatening to call the A.T.F.—from a complete ignoramus who's never going to get a shiny Truman dime's worth of my business.

 

[six 4 sure]

I got into a nice discussion with an FFL the past weekend. I tried to convince him that guns manufactured before 1900 were considered antique, and therefore a FFL was not need to purchase them, and that anyone could ship them.

I didn't want to press the issue, so I changed the subject.

Six

 

[alan]

six 4 sure:

While I wouldn't swear to it, I believe that the date is 1898, as in "or prior to" not 1900. Also, I believe that there was also something about "ammnunition not being readily available".

Of course, with respect to C & R stuff, that is another story entirely, as one therein gets involved with C & R Licenses.

 

[synoptic]

You're right alan, the date is 1898. There are also a couple other conditions that must be met about accepting standard bullets and such. Basically it has to be the kind that you pour powder into, drop a ball, and pack it in. I think the ATF's website has the exact specifications...

 

[synoptic]

(g) Antique firearm. -- The term "antique firearm" means any firearm not designed or redesigned for using rim fire or conventional center fire ignition with fixed ammunition and manufactured in or before 1898 (including any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system or replica thereof, whether actually manufactured before or after the year 1898) and also any firearm using fixed ammunition manufactured in or before 1898, for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade.

 

[clange]

I'd use Fed-ex but our closest shipping station for them is 60 miles away, little mailing points around here won't take handguns or I would use them. Gotta admit thats something I like about S/W. I'm sending two guns into the preformance center later this week. You E-mail, they give you a Fed-ex number, you call them and they come to you to pick up the guns, sweet

What do you mean by 'little mailing points', like unmanned places? I used FedEX here in rolla (like a town of 10,000 in the middle of nowhere). It was some little FedEx dist center, one person at the counter. The lady didnt have that much experience with the legality of it but remembered enough that it was legal for them to do if it was over night to the business. Didnt give me any problems..

 

[Blueduck]

clang,

By the little mailing points I mean the fed-ex stations at Mail Boxes Etc. and our local Business supply store. Niether location will accept handguns and state it has to be at a "Main" Fed-Ex pickup station. UPS is the same way can mail form the main place (open 4-5pm M-F ) but not at stores or other places with UPS outlets.

Don't doubt your story a but though, rarely get the same answer to the same question wherever I go

 

[six 4 sure]

Guess I was wrong

I knew the year was 1898 or 1900 couldn't remember which. The gun in question was a Winchester 1873 made in 1881. I don't remember for sure, but I think it was chambered in 32-20.

Six

 

[EOD Guy]

(g) Antique firearm. -- The term "antique firearm" means any firearm not designed or redesigned for using rim fire or conventional center fire ignition with fixed ammunition and manufactured in or before 1898 (including any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system or replica thereof, whether actually manufactured before or after the year 1898) and also any firearm using fixed ammunition manufactured in or before 1898, for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade.

This is incorrect. The prohibition against currently available fixed ammunition only applies to REPRODUCTIONS of antique firearms. For instance, I have a Model 1888 Sprngfield trapdoor rifle chambered in .45/70 Government. Ammunition for the rifle is currently manufactured and the rifle is still an antique.