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My friend is looking for a carry gun

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Hanzo581, Sep 29, 2006.

  1. Hanzo581

    Hanzo581 Well-Known Member

    He wants at least .40 cal, fairly small, ten round capacity if possible, and in the price range of 3-5 hundred dollars.

    Any suggestions would be great

    he has also said that if he goes out of that price range it would only be for the Walther P99 Q/A in .40 cal,

    Is that a good choice for him if he chooses to spend the extra money?
  2. Black Majik

    Black Majik Well-Known Member

    Glock 23

    Its what a compact gun should be.
  3. Hanzo581

    Hanzo581 Well-Known Member

    thank you for your response, I forgot to add in my original post that he has shot several glocks and is not a fan of the "feel" of them
  4. Will Learn

    Will Learn Well-Known Member

    Sig P229 40 S&W works for me, plus you can get a 9mm or .357 sig barrel for it. 3 calibers, one gun= lotta fun.
  5. Bazooka Joe71

    Bazooka Joe71 Well-Known Member

    If hes looking for something with a good "feel" to it, my first autoloader was a .40 S&W Taurus PT 24/7 pro. I think its a great gun, I have fired a few thousand rounds through it without the slighest hiccup. Its also in his price range, pretty light, and small enough to carry....And it holds 15+1 rds.
  6. Hanzo581

    Hanzo581 Well-Known Member

    I was leaning him toward taurus, I read somewhere that some of there semiautos have trouble with some piece sheering off, during cycling, dont remember the exact piece. Anyone ever heard of this?

    also what about the MILLENNIUM PRO PT140 .40 S&W

    are they as good as the 24/7 pistols? quality wise?
  7. loki.fish

    loki.fish Well-Known Member

    How about Springfield's SubCompact XD .40? I've shot one and a 9mm Glock and although the guns are similar, the feel of the XD in my hands was better. They run around $400-$450 and are 12+1.
  8. Hanzo581

    Hanzo581 Well-Known Member

    hmmm.... he did shoot my XD45 and did remark he liked the feel, now the subcompact can add the mag grip extension to make the grip full size if need be right?
  9. abarth

    abarth Well-Known Member

    Another vote for the XD 40 Subcompact. I have the XD9 SC, very reliable, decent accuracy. CZ Rami in 40 is another good choice.
  10. Hanzo581

    Hanzo581 Well-Known Member

    ok, so thus far we have two votes for the XD40 subcompact, definitley an option to suggest to him.

    anyone else have an opinion on the Taurus models stated in the above posts?
  11. loki.fish

    loki.fish Well-Known Member

    Yes, there is a grip extension, I believe only grip extension and not mag extension. I never really looked, I just emptied a mag and handed it back to my buddy. Such a nice friend :)
  12. Hanzo581

    Hanzo581 Well-Known Member

    I went on their site and apparently the "x-tension" they give you with the gun accepts the 12 round .40 cal mag, up from the 9 round. And makes the pistol have a full size grip, or you can take it off and just use the 9 round
  13. jlh26oo

    jlh26oo Well-Known Member

    As my first vote is no longer an option, and he likes the feel of the xd- that's the route I would go! Point & click like glock, and now their finish is at least as good; which was really their only (legitimate) knock before it was upgraded. Rest of critiques are purely subjective- looks, trigger preference, grip safety are kind of inconsequential (except as a personal prefernce kind of thing)- both have excellent capacity:sizeXweight ratios, and are of solid quality, reliability, accuracy.


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  14. loki.fish

    loki.fish Well-Known Member

    Well there ya go, XD sounds like it could be the one.
  15. Hanzo581

    Hanzo581 Well-Known Member

    I am going to have him shoot a buddy of mines .40 cal 4" service XD.

    He like's my XD45 but wants less recoil without going down to a 9mm

    I think he will like the subcompact since there is still the option to make it a full size grip with the "x-tension" plus the extra round capacity cant hurt.

    but just in case he does not go with the XD, what else should i suggest to him?
    still no other opinions on Taurus?
  16. jlh26oo

    jlh26oo Well-Known Member

    HTere are plenty of taurus advocates around here (and anywhere else)- but you find just as many antis. What worries me most of all about their stories is customer service- taurus has a lifetime warranty, and apparently it gets used alot. Have just heard too many horror stories about no email replies, keeping stuff for way too long etc, and the fact that it has to be used in the first place. Apparently ruger and glock have great cs, but never had to use them (well ruger mailed me a pin for my cylinder on a gp100 but that was my fault i lost it, they sent it for free).

    My only experience with taurus is an old .38spl- not even sure of the model number. It was fine. And it is very old, I was actually surprised when I noticed it was a taurus (before I even paid attn to brands lol if you can believe that ); and apparently their quality has increased since then, so it could only get better (otoh autos and wheelies are two different animals). And further, if I believed everything I read on the interweb, i would have never taken a chance on a kahr, because reports on pm9s are pretty split in the same way, on the same fronts. Time will tell.

    I would say, if taurus happened to offer some package that just did not have a counterpart by another maker, and i really liked it, I might consider it. But I think in what he's looking for, service .40sw are a dime a dozen (in a good way) from known quality manufacturers.

    If the .45acp has too much recoil, maybe .40sw will work, but I'm not sure they are all that different in force- just different nature of recoil. Might be better off "going down to a 9mm"... it's what I shoot. But I'll admit it does leave you wanting. Let him shoot your xd45 some more. That's where it's at in the xd line- if I was going to get one, it'd be their xd45tac, because (as i was talking about re something offreed by taurus no one else makes), glock just doesn't have a [prac/tac .45, and xd does. only reason i'd consider.

    I'm sure taurus is fine though.
  17. loki.fish

    loki.fish Well-Known Member

    I've never owned or shot a Taurus, so I cannot comment on them.
  18. Hanzo581

    Hanzo581 Well-Known Member

    thank you guys for all the info, I will let him try out my .45 some more, even though I doubt he would want the same gun as me :uhoh:
  19. gunhappy

    gunhappy Well-Known Member

    I can't believe...

    no one has mentioned a NIB S&W Sigma. These are often denounced as a POC, but after 3 years of using them (occasionally, True) at the Department, I gotta say, if you can shoot a DA revolver, the trigger is very useable. Don't fall for all the hype about how bad they are.And at around $300, they are a great value. Also very ergonomic for someone w/small hands.:)
  20. symr00

    symr00 Well-Known Member

    Maybe my experience is different, but I find the .40 has a lot more recoil than the .45 ACP.

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