Neck ID holder instead of CCW badge?

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Post from Justin #18..

I read it to be a ID holder/WALLET-tucked under the shirt(he didnt use those words-he said neck ID). I use one quite a bit. No one knows it is there-certainly less than a wallet in jeans that everyone sees the bulge/lighter color on the jeans.

Actually a VERY GOOD idea. You dont have to remove seatbelt and practically get out of the vehicle to get it out of your pocket.
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I go along with this. I often carry my CHL, DL and credit cards (and some cash) in a neck wallet. It's not a clear-windowed ID-display holder, just an opaque fabric pouch slung around my neck. When not using that, the same cards are in my shirt's breast pocket.

The idea is that when asked to produce ID (as in a traffic stop) I don't have to reach in my back pocket for my wallet, which might look like I was reaching for a gun.

But I would never display my CHL, nor would I wear a hat or T-shirt with any kind of firearms motif or logo. And I'd be highly cautious around anyone who felt the need to have a CC badge! That sounds like something you'd get in a box of Crackerjack (or order from the Cheaper Than Dirt catalog)!
 
Sadly, while I was TAD with USAF SF, we were briefed on a new sticker on vehicles with two dark blue bars, identifying supporters of concealed carry, and were told to regard these people as potential threats...keep that in mind, when a LEO is threatened, he/she does not care about who has what permit....
 
Platestacker, I hoe you never get sued for wrongful arrest, since your attitude seems to be pointing you that way.
 
wow....CCW holders a potential threat based on a sticker? In my area surplus Sheriffs Office vehicles seem like more of a threat to the civilian. No police markings, but they do have all the other features common to an unmarked police vehicle.


I guess the "Keep honking, I'm reloading sticker is a bad idea"!
 
They used to give those courtesy sheilds in NY, for friends and family. They saved me a couple of tickets, being given to me by my best friend a detective. But when I went up to Newport RI one time and got pulled over, the state trooper was not amused, he said only cops have these and your no cop, I referd him back the the friends and family thing and just as I was getting scolded my cousin pulled up, and the cop said "he one of yours" and that was that, I bought him a drink that night, my cousin owned a few bars in town. That was one reason I didn't stop right away, I was already out of the car by my cousins restaurat when he pulled up, I said I didn't see the lights, he wasn't buying it till chris pulled up, I had called him from the car.But those ccw badges, are a no no. You can get in a lot of trouble if they feel you stepped over the line. It would be taken that you were a LEO running with a gun and a shield in a holder around your neck, impersonating an officer, There ae a lot of phony cops who rob people in FL. They have the gear car, vests, and badges. Not smart.You aren't a cop. Porshes were much faster than police cars, but not radios.
 
If I am carrying all the rest of my money and identification in a wallet around my neck then I would say yea.
In all my years I have had to produce my permit one time, that was when I was pulling over a jacket after getting out of my truck and a cop drove around the corner and saw it in my belt.
If there is ever an incident you will have plenty of time to produce your ID and Permit once they let you up off the ground.
 
That was the point I was saying Navy, I was responding to the wearing your permit visible makes you the first target saying its like Open Carry if they see it, if the criminal sees it, they'll wait till you leave.

This is something you can use, you wear it in a (for a lack of a better word) belt holster thingy and you deploy it after you shot someone with one hand. You DON'T walk around with it on though as it gets rid of the whole Concealed point of carry, it just sits in it's holster thingy.
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Ummm.... what good does it do AFTER a shooting to display a CCW? You're not concealed any more if I understand the situation.

I'd recommend standing by until LEOs arrive, then handle your pistol by the muzzle end with your arm extended and slowly place it on the ground in front of you with the other hand raised and step away from it as the officers approach, and identify yourself as the victim who called 911.

Comment from other LEOs?
 
The base premise of this thread seems to be that one ought to have *something* in the first place.
Other than a small card wherever one carries small cards and a pistol on the person I don't see why a concealed carrier needs anything in the first place.
 
I think a helium balloon that self deploys like a CO2 life vest and be tethered to your gun belt would be better than the sash.:rolleyes: Maybe it could be sound activated so as soon as you shot it would blow up, blaze orange with CCW or GOOD GUY on it would be cool.:D
 
That sash is just plain silly. Same with a badge or displaying your Permit.

I have a FD badge in my wallet (I am a volunteer). If I am ever involved in a SD Shooting I am not about to pull it out and yell "Firefighter" . Or hope my jacket with my Department logo on the back shows that I am a good guy.


I am just going to stand like a statue and do whatever those LEO's say so I don't get shot. I am sure they will figure out I am the good guy after the adrenaline rush has passed.
 
What credibility does that serve. Other than the bad guy laffing so hard he drops his gun. It looks like a miss America sash. What makes you think anyone other than gun people know what CCW means. Cops arn't going to pay any atention other than you are holding a gun. Anyone with a craft shop near them can have their wife whip up one of those silly things.It's like putting a red cross on the side of a chopper in Nam.
 
"I think a helium balloon that self deploys like a CO2 life vest and be tethered to your gun belt would be better than the sash. Maybe it could be sound activated so as soon as you shot it would blow up, blaze orange with CCW or GOOD GUY on it would be cool."

ok X-rap, best belly laugh fuel of the day, thanks I needed that.

The image you just gave me of CCW'ers having their balloon vests deploy because of a champagne cork or firework... at a formal or company event.

Or a Real shooting occurs in a mall and 30 nearby concealed carriers "pop" at once.

Seriously though, a little Devil's Advocate, A Neck ID-holder might have saved the gentleman in Canton a lot of trouble.

Not a chance you'll get me to wear one, but in his instance specifically...

I keep my wallet on a chain, with the chain tucked in. It can be withdrawn without digging in my clothes and obscuring my hand should someone call the police to check me out.
 
No. The permit is just that. Permission to carry concealed. No majical powers or privilidges attached.
Been carrying a weapon of some sort for 43 years. In civilian clothes you would not know im concealed carry. Nobodys business. Blend in be the grayman.
God forbid I use it, I had enough time in blue to know that as a civilian im just another mook at the scene until they sort it out.
 
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Interesting to see how few people actually read the post and responded as if the OP stated that the permit should be worn visibly all the time. He clearly didn't.

Ok, I'm a major ANTI-fan of the CCW Badge and CCW Sash, but this idea is quite different and has some merit, in my opinion.

If I were going to do this, and I have no plans to, for what it's worth, I'd just wear it around my neck under my shirt all the time and pull it out when appropriate.

Some of the benefits I see are
  • It allows you to display your permit without using your hands once it's been pulled out of your shirt.
  • It allows you to acquire your permit fairly easily with only one hand.
  • If you need to reach for your permit to pull it up from behind your shirt so it can be seen, reaching for your neck is MUCH less threatening than reaching towards a pocket.
As far as making the wearer look like a "good guy", it probably won't hurt the wearer's image/credibility the same way a CCW badge would. Some cops might not like it, but I think some of the other practical benefits might outweigh any negative responses. It certainly doesn't have nearly the same "stink" of LE impersonation/holster sniffing, as a fake badge or sash that's supposed to replace or agument a standard issue permit.
 
What credibility does that serve. Other than the bad guy laffing so hard he drops his gun. It looks like a miss America sash. What makes you think anyone other than gun people know what CCW means. Cops arn't going to pay any atention other than you are holding a gun. Anyone with a craft shop near them can have their wife whip up one of those silly things.It's like putting a red cross on the side of a chopper in Nam.
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Let me repost something I said about in my post about said sash since you missed it the first time:
This is something you can use, you wear it in a (for a lack of a better word) belt holster thingy and you deploy it after you shot someone with one hand. You DON'T walk around with it on though as it gets rid of the whole Concealed point of carry, it just sits in it's holster thingy.
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It is something that you can use, not something that I suggest that everyone uses. This is deployed after you shoot someone, less of a chance that the Cops will shoot you when they first arrive and yes it has happened before. http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2009/09/homeowner_shot_by_police_while.php

It was orginally designed for Police to prevent Blue on Blue shootings. Seeing such a thing can help.
 
Don't you have enough things to lug around, guns, keys, glasses, mags, cell, now we need a sash. maybe a shopping cart.I know a lot of cops and never heard this mentioned. Make something bullettproof then it may have a purpose, in the heat of batle ones eyes are trained to look at several things, honestlly, unless you knew what that was, most cops would just miss the concept, imo, If yoou have used it ot ever do, please let us know how it worked.
 
I won't speak for all states but in many the carrying of a concealed weapon is a misdemeanor, having your permit in easy access and prominently displayed post SD shooting will do what exactly? Besides I'm guessing your gun won't be concealed anyway and if so you will be exactly like all the other witnesses until you present yourself to the attending officers.
 
FLCowboy49 said:
Sadly, while I was TAD with USAF SF, we were briefed on a new sticker on vehicles with two dark blue bars, identifying supporters of concealed carry, and were told to regard these people as potential threats...keep that in mind, when a LEO is threatened, he/she does not care about who has what permit....
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1st- What's TAD?

2nd- Who thought it was a good idea for USAF Security to start referring to themselves as "SF"? When I was in we were SPs - Security Police. There's only one SF in the military and they're not humping the flightline at any air force base.

3rd- Doing anything with your CCW other than stowing it in your wallet until needed - neck wear, badges, seperate CCW wallets, sashes, taped to your forehead, etc - is just trying to bring attention to yourself because your carrying a gun. Don't. The point is to be concealed. It's the law. It's to your advantage. If that isn't enough for you, become a cop.
 
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