New Trigger Assembly Rem M700 223

[Raw-Dog]

I want to make my new Rem M700 VSF .223rem the paper killer and long range dinner maker it is advertised to be.

At the range and in these forums the clear belief is that a new higher end trigger group and new barrel crown will make it shoot up to expectation.

The current trigger is the stock one that came before the X-pro was default. This means the gun was bought new after being on the shelf 2-3 years.

Out of the box it will go sub MOA but then fling randoms every 3-5 shots. it will be two in a row then one 2-3 inches over. Im not a sniper but I can definitely hold a rifle on a bench under 2MOA without much effort (my m1a will do it all day). I have used 5 weights of Black Hills so its not the particular ammo, though it does seem to prefer the 55gr MHP. (40gr SP, 50gr BTHP, 52gr MHP, 55gr SP, 60gr V-Max)

My question is what type of trigger group to get and can I install it myself? And if you would be so kind as to enlighten me as to why its so good so I can not sound like an ass when buying it.

See my m1a is a simple modular masterpiece and everything installed is as easy as 1-2-3. I basically want to avoid getting a $200 trigger and paying that to put it in.

Thank you for any help you can provide.

 

[Raw-Dog]

Help? Any trigger assemblies or trigger job info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

 

[JWF III]

Brownell's sells a single set trigger made by Kepplinger that is absolutely amazing. The group size on my old -06 ADL was cut from 3" to down under 1" at 100 yards. The stock trigger broke anywhere from 9#s to 13.5#s. The Kepplinger (unset) breaks at about 3.5#s. And with it set, I have yet to find a scale that goes low enough. The closest I've come was with a digital scale that measured down to 4 oz., it gave a weight of 4 oz. on the trigger pull. Just be ready to shoot when your finger get close to it. If you can feel the trigger, it's going to fire.

Wyman

Also, I did install the trigger myself, wasn't too difficult. But I do have probably above average firearm (mechanical) knowledge. One of my favorite pass times is taking guns apart, figuring out how systems work, and improving them.

 

[MCMXI]

A few months ago I bought two Jewell triggers for two 700s that I bought before the X-Mark Pro trigger was available. The Jewell triggers are probably among the best triggers on the market. Check out the link below ... an average of 5 stars from 52 reviews!! I like the X-Mark Pro trigger in my 700 Alaskan Ti and won't be changing that. The Jewell triggers are outstanding but not $200 better than the X-Mark Pro. However, it's money well spent if you don't have an X-Mark Pro.

Jewell trigger for Remington 700

You can install and adjust the Jewell trigger yourself if you're reasonably "useful".

 

[skinewmexico]

I've had really good luck with both Timneys and Rifle Basix in my Savages. If you can sharpen a pencil, you can put one in in 30 minutes.

 

[DrPerry]

New Trigger?

Timmeny is the one that comes to mind but you might also have a look at an article called

Remington Crisp

I have had GREAT success with my two using this method.

I lowered trigger pull from 7-8 pounds to 2.5 on both.

As always keep safety first.

When working on a gun the ammo stays in another room.

Remove the bolt and clear the breech

Don't assume anything.

Keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.

Use common sense and if you're not sure or have any doubts call a professional.

JMHO

 

[BBW]

I would add my vote for the Jewell. The stock Remington triggers were always pretty good, as are the Shilen, Timney's, etc. But it's hard to understand just how sweet a Jewell feels until you try it. They are crisp, as light as you want them to be, and 100% consistent.

I have one on my custom 308. It's set at just under 2lbs, but can go much lighter. It came from the factory set at about 1lb and it took a serious force of will for me to crank it up to 2lb. But anything less than 2 is just too light for a gun that sees use in the field.

I installed the Jewell myself. The safety comes preinstalled so you don't have to mess around with that. Only thing I had to do was relieve the stock a bit. But 15 minutes with my dremmel tool and I was all set.

If you look around for sales you can sometimes find them in the $180 range. Well worth it.

Ben

 

[skinewmexico]

About anything you put in will be substantially better than the factory. A gunsmith could make it a lot better too. You just have to decide what you want to spend.

 

[nathan]

Timney brand is very highly recommend.

 

[jim147]

http://shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=19761
Only if you are comfortable doing you own work should you try this.
But this won't give the same feel of a high quality target trigger.

 

[Tarvis]

I adjusted the trigger on my 700P (non X-pro) to a hair over 1lb. It is good, but sometimes I get just a tiny bit of creep that almost feels like the first stage in a 2 stage when I go really slow, but it really isn't that bad at all. I have no experience with after market bolt action triggers, but I've heard Jewell is the best and that Timney is very good as well.

 

[DRYHUMOR]

I've got 2 Rifle Basix triggers, both break about 12-14 ounces. One in an LTR one in a PSS. Very nice. About 10-15 minutes to install.

I have adjusted the factory triggers down to about 2 lbs before. It takes a little effort to get just right. Some times a bit too much creep or overtravel. If I'm not happy with the result, I put the rifle away for a couple of weeks and start over till I can get it where I want it.

 

[Raw-Dog]

Thank you all for the help....after looking into it the Jewell is a bit too pricey (even though I believe you get what you pay for). I am going to go with the Timney for half the price.
Thanks again

 

[Horsemany]

I own Timney and Jewell and I can tell you there are things I like better about the Timney. The Jewell is built to be taken apart for cleaning, has a bigger adjustment range, is stainless etc. But the Jewell trigger blade is VERY uncomfortable especially on a rifle with recoil. It's sharp as a knife blade while the Timney blade is the most comfortable I've ever used. The Timney blade is the widest possible blade that will fit through the bottom metal. A wider blade makes the percieved pull weight less IMO.

All in all I like the Jewell better but not by much.