Oh, no! New TV Gun Show Season

[Bojangles7]

In any case, I really think that whether you like the show or not.....we as gun owners and enthusiast should be thrilled any time a "pro-gun" program is produced as a TV show. Frankly, there aren't enough of them.

Agreed. Especially if it's on a major cable network like discovery. Not everyone has the outdoor channel.

 

[DammitBoy]

It's bittersweet...this could be such a good opportunity to show firearms and specifically NFA weapons in a positive light. And it's totally wasted. I could think of a lot of words to describe the problems...but mostly it's just unprofessional. They pretend everything is going to blow up, put themselves downrange...fire a bunch of lead into a pond, start a fire with tracers, etc. And if you think the daughter is hot you need your vision checked.

Yeah, I'll probably watch it anyway...sad I know...just hoping they make some improvements this season.

I agree 100% and to the guys saying this show is good for gunowners - no, it makes us look like backwards hicks and boobs.

 

[HOOfan_1]

I'd much rather see a series where they go through actual firearms manufacturers. Maybe a few custom shops. But keep it more like a documentary than this "reality" garbage, sort of like "How its Made".

There is a How It's Made episode going over the manufacture of H&H shotguns, there is a How They Do It episode going over the manufacture of Purdey Shotguns and there is another How It's Made episode that shows the manufacture/assembly of an LWRC AR-10.

All of those were 5-10 minute segments and showed much more about the actual manufacture of the guns than Son's of Guns

 

[hardluk1]

RDCL I am also a rider , does that make me thrilled with OCC,, H*LL no. Trash bike show . I most every town in america there is a shop that can do what they do, with out all the BS. All that did was bring out a bunch wana be clear sky riders on over priced, below avarage bikes. Theres many smithy / gun shops out that can do real work on real guns with out all the junk that red jacket seems trive on.

 

[sarduy]

i watched the show once and that was enough...
i dont like it. too much drama....

 

[Dimis]

Good TV, NO. Popular TV, maybe.

thats why it was in quotes I dont believe its good tv or anything close its dramatic garbage that will deteriorate into what orange county choppers did where the focus will be on the members of the show not the firearms

Dimis jesse james IS a very good fabricator, he can do it with out help. To bad all these show are so full of sh,, poop.

I know he is a very good fabricator but I also know that the "I know everything in the world about fabricating EVER" attitude was an act put on for monster garage the man is fallible and does have limits

 

[SwampWolf]

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In any case, I really think that whether you like the show or not.....we as gun owners and enthusiast should be thrilled any time a "pro-gun" program is produced as a TV show. Frankly, there aren't enough of them.

Agreed. Especially if it's on a major cable network like discovery. Not everyone has the outdoor channel.

+2; I, too, absolutely agree with this sentiment.

 

[hardluk1]

Dimis Aren't we all fallible. he did sign a contract that he lived to regret. Jessie hated the show. I have met jessie years back at daytona before all this tv stuff made him somewhat unaroachable for some time. Difference, The owners/owner of occ are nothing more than a run of the mill weilder/wrench. With out guys with some talent around him he ain't poop. JR too. Jessie can allways go back to being a one man shop and the finish product will only be better. Tv with all the dramatic editing is for the toilet. But it atleast gives the never were's or wanabe's something to get the guns off on I guess. I put occ, the son of guns and those brother wielders that built a couple tracked toys all in the pile together. Nothing new, original or forword thinking among any of them.

 

[RDCL]

RDCL I am also a rider, does that make me thrilled with OCC,, H*LL no. Trash bike show

Hardluk1, I appreciate what you're saying.....but riders aren't under constant threat of losing their bike riding pastime due to ignorance and mis-placed ideas like the gun hobby of ours certainly is. Any TV program that promotes the idea that firearms are not terrible evil objects to be avoided....and are only the tools of a criminal is a rare and good thing.

Like the show or not......it IS a pro-gun TV show. Again, this is rare and good.

Best regards,
Russ

 

[hardluk1]

RDCL Its not a seriously informative show by any means and can feed the anti-gun people after seeing all the bs they do and how they act and possibly help the anti's think all of us are like that.

 

[FourTeeFive]

Sons of Guns

Just noticed this on the Rifle Dynamics website:

http://www.rifledynamics.com/news/index.php

If you scroll down there are two mentions of "Sons of Guns" and you'll see that Jim Fuller (Rifle Dynamics) and Tony Rumore (Tromix) will be in an episode. Now some of you will have more AK builders to complain about! Maybe they can bring in Marc Krebs and then nothing AK-related will be sacred anymore.

For me "Sons of Guns" is a guilty-pleasure of cheap entertainment. I like seeing the guy (Will) who converted some of my Saiga rifles. He was great to deal with in the past and I only wish him the best of luck in the future.

 

[DammitBoy]

Sons of Guns does NOT represent responsible gun ownership in any shape form or fashion. It reflects badly upon gun owners. That is not a positive image for us to be proud of...

 

[USAF_Vet]

So I watched the season premiere.

The 'problems' they encountered with their triple M-16 mostrosity I had figured out in five seconds... took them half an epidode.

Then the final scene of them blowing up that, what was it? a kids clubhouse? was just stupid. What was the point? It makes gun owners look bad.

I'll continue to watch it, but I'm not holding my breath for any improvements.

 

[Sean Smith]

God, some of you are uptight. The show is fluff entertainment. The people on the show point out how ridiculous their projects and contrived "deadlines" are all the time. The ridiculousness is kind of the point, but apparently that has gone over a lot of your heads.

I don't see them as a negative example of gun owners either. Shooting is shown as a fun hobby that doesn't hurt anybody, and the people are shown as likable oddballs, not paranoid psychos.

 

[stonecutter2]

God, some of you are uptight. The show is fluff entertainment. The people on the show point out how ridiculous their projects and contrived "deadlines" are all the time. The ridiculousness is kind of the point, but apparently that has gone over a lot of your heads.

I don't see them as a negative example of gun owners either. Shooting is shown as a fun hobby that doesn't hurt anybody, and the people are shown as likable oddballs, not paranoid psychos.

Yeah I think some of the things they do are totally goofy, and they often comment as such. And I wonder if some of the "drama" is really just tongue in cheek stuff to mock other reality shows (American Choppers etc).

What absolutely gets me is how they insist on shooting things that are antiques. This opening episode showed a guy with an old revolver with a tooth (?) in it - and he had a weird old bullet to show what it shot. The owner then asked if he fixed the revolver, could he shoot the bullet - and the guy said sure. I would definitely have left that bullet as-is, and as the owner I would have fixed the mechanism of the revolver and left it at that.

Pawn Stars drives me nuts the same way - here's an old antique blunderbuss last shot by Blackbeard's pirates - let's shoot it, and if it works we'll buy it! Why risk damaging so old and interesting, that's just fine as it is?

 

[RDCL]

I'd have to say that IMHO the best gun shows on cable TV are the ones presented on "The Outdoor Channel" on Wednesdays.

My favorites:

"American Rifleman"
"Shooting Gallery"
"Gun Nuts"
"Midway USA Gun Stories"
"Shooting USA"
"Best Defense"
"Cowboys"

Unfortunately "Cowboys" has been taken off. I DVR these shows every Wed. so I can enjoy them over the weekend. "American Rifleman" has a good segment called "This Old Gun"......always interesting.


......the hunting & fishing shows however, not much into those. They are more like ads for hunting gear!......Oh, and if you tend to think the daughter on "Sons Of Guns" is annoying (I don't) you've seen nothing until you've seen the Blond woman Tiffany on "The Crush: With Lee & Tiffany". She looks like Britney Spears......very attractive but annoying as all H*LL. I have no idea what "The Crush" is supposed to mean anyway......maybe a hunter can enlighten me.




.....and back to the original topic.....yes.....I do on occasion DVR "Sons Of Guns". The older show last year about the guys assembling an M-2 (Ma Duce) was fun.

Russ

 

[S.W.G.]

Their 'Breakthroughs' are a Joke

The episode with the dual water-cooled M16's was too much for me.

If they admitted it was for novelty that would be one thing, but they were talking about it as a legitimate weapons platform.

The Navy guy said he wanted to put some fire down on some waterfront targets. There are so many options that would have been superior to what they came up with.

How about a S.A.W.? Maybe an HK23E? Nope, were going to weld together some assault rifles, coil some copper tubing around them and call it a day.

It was a solution in search of a problem.

Not to mention how they claim to have invented things that have been around for a decade or more. I can see it now:

(Announcer) "Next Episode the guys unveil their piston driven AR!!! Unheard of!!! This is history in the making, folks!!!"

 

[Cal-gun Fan]

Ahh guys, come on, you hate Top Shot, you hate Sons of Guns, is there any pleasing you? So the people aren't the brightest-who cares? You all whine about how "its just a bunch of drama" and such, but you're just adding to it by complaining about it on the internet. If you don't want to watch it, don't-simple as that. No need to go cry about it on the gun forums.

 

[DammitBoy]

My favorites:

"American Rifleman"
"Shooting Gallery"
"Gun Nuts"
"Midway USA Gun Stories"
"Shooting USA"
"Best Defense"
"Cowboys"

Ditto +2 on that, including the new show, "gun stories" which is now my new favorite firearm related show.

Top shot isn't that bad, but I refuse to support the redneck hillbilly ignorant horrible negative mess that is 'sons of guns" - they glorify everything that non-gun owners point at and say, "see, I told you that's how they are!"

 

[browneu]

Did anyone see the previews for this week. He is going to make a 1,000 yard AK. I might watch this episode.

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[Cal-gun Fan]

I saw that, has me interested. Skeptical, as Krebs is doing something similar, but interested.

 

[FourTeeFive]

And their ratings are two to three times as expected by the producers. Call it the dumbing down of America, but people like to watch this stuff. I don't honestly believe all swamp loggers are like the guys in that show, but some ARE! The TV producers specifically found a personable guy (Will) who runs a gun shop in Baton Rouge that makes tactical weapons. It MAKES GOOD TV! And that was the point, not to educate American citizens about guns.

I still maintain that this type of publicity helps us all. It makes "evil black rifles" more mainstream. I've read that most of the TV crew for the show never even fired a gun before, and now some of them have had Red Jacket build them AK's. For me that is a huge WIN for us gun owners.

Anything that brings gun ownership, and particularly weapons which are controversial to the general public, into the mainstream of America is, in my opinion, a great thing. Yes, it is fluffy sensationalistic entertainment, but I think it is helping our cause, not hurting it.

YMMV...

P.S. - I've spent quite a bit of time in Baton Rouge. In general the people are really warm and friendly, and yes, some of them are characters. But on the whole they're good folk with an interesting history. It is one of the few parts of the country where they've held on to their culture and heritage. More power to them. And... the food there is amazing!

 

[smince]

All of you gun snobs crack me up...

 

[kozak6]

Gun snobs? Are we supposed to be impressed by the gator killin' zip gun? A bent sheet metal cover bolted to a MAC pistol? Or how about a copper tube wrapped around a gun barrel? They also seem to have some issues with basic gun safety.

I haven't seen many episodes, but I haven't been impressed. The manufactured drama, silly deadlines, and lazy builds just don't do it for me.

I also find it troublesome that difficulties in NFA weapon ownership tend to be entirely skipped. It makes it seem like anyone can walk out the door with an MG or SBR.

Due to this and other reasons, it doesn't really cast a favorable image on gun owners.

 

[browneu]

I also find it troublesome that difficulties in NFA weapon ownership tend to be entirely skipped. It makes it seem like anyone can walk out the door with an MG or SBR.

Agreed, the anti's will only see people entering a gun shop and buying an SBR or MG. They won't believe us if we correct them on the ownership issues because it's not shown on TV.