Oh, no! New TV Gun Show Season

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They kinda covered that issue in one of the episodes. Couple of people were looking at a short Saiga shotgun and started talking about how it would be fun to have at their upcoming weekend and the girl said that it takes a few months to get the paperwork and backround check done.
 
I thought this episode was very weak for a season premiere. Seemed even more contrived than usual, and the firearm they produced was more "Rube Goldberg" than usual.
 
I think the show is enjoyable in a limited sense. Will seems to be a guy who has made a going concern out of a hobby and is delighted with the result. I don't have a problem with the guns they play with, but I would like it if they did focus on the legal hassles they have to put up with. This show is a narrow window into the world of guns for the general public and should be lauded for that.

I don't like senseless destruction and filling targets with explosives seems excessive. But that's television. After their 10th anniversary celebration where they blew up a house, I hope they cleaned up their mess before going home.
 
kozak6 said:
Gun snobs? Are we supposed to be impressed by the gator killin' zip gun? A bent sheet metal cover bolted to a MAC pistol? Or how about a copper tube wrapped around a gun barrel? They also seem to have some issues with basic gun safety.

I haven't seen many episodes, but I haven't been impressed. The manufactured drama, silly deadlines, and lazy builds just don't do it for me.

I also find it troublesome that difficulties in NFA weapon ownership tend to be entirely skipped. It makes it seem like anyone can walk out the door with an MG or SBR.

Due to this and other reasons, it doesn't really cast a favorable image on gun owners.
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Ok, the gator gun was weak, I will give you that :)

However, you come off in your post as a bit of nit-picking snob to be honest, of course thats just how I interpreted it. It isn't "a bent sheet metal cover" bolted to a MAC. Its kind of a neat idea, perhaps not very practical in ALL situations, but look at gun owners-is half of the stuff we have PRACTICAL, to be honest? Heck no!
Not sure what you mean by the copper tube. If you mean the dual water cooled M16s, then it isn't really something that is needed, but it is still cool to watch. And "they seem to have some issues with basic gun safety". Yeah, I think that is probably half of the dang gun owning community there buddy. I wouldn't go pointing fingers there-I've seen plenty of gun owners with worse safety than that.
I don't get why you guys complain about the manufactured drama. It doesn't matter to be honest-grow up! Just fast forward if you are that bothered by it-don't come complain on the forums.
The deadlines may seem silly, but they still get it done, don't they? I'd say thats impressive.

I hear a lot of people saying that what Red Jacket does isn't that impressive, or that they talk about things they do like they are new concepts. Well, in many cases, they are to be honest. Anyone ever seen a suppressed shotgun before they made one? Nope.
Anyone ever seen an integrally suppressed AK before they made one? Nope.
They make a lot of neat stuff. Not all of it is practical, but it is all neat to see.

The NFA thing has already been noted-they mention having to do paperwork a lot and mention that it will take about 4 months.
 
I'd much rather watch the UK Top Gear than Sons of Guns.

That said, the fact that there are now reality shows based around shooting competitions and gunsmithing is an absolute positive that does nothing but benefit the RKBA community.

Evidently, those of you who've been too busy grousing about the quality of the programs have failed to notice something.

These programs, and their evidently reasonably good ratings are an indicator that the gun culture has gone mainstream.

No longer are shooters assumed to be basement-dwelling weirdos who are assumed to be one tinfoil shortage away from going on a rampage.

Rather, now shooters are considered fodder for multiple reality tv shows. Argue all you like about how you perceive the characters on these shows, but it doesn't change the fact that many people are watching these shows and being entertained.

Not only are they being entertained, they are having their views of gun owners mainstreamed and leveled, especially on Top Shot, where the drama is practically nonexistent compared to similarly themed shows. In fact, one review I read commented on how polite and generally fair-minded the people on Top Shot are.

These shows are a coupe for us. Regardless of whether you personally like them or not, it doesn't change the fact that the shows are a success. Furthermore, no one I'm aware of is running out to sign up Joan Peterson, Tom Diaz, or Dennis Hennigan to star in a reality show because no one cares about those people.

The antis are now losing on every front, including on television.
 
I finally watched a few episodes and it's not bad. It doesn't hold a candle to Top Shot though :D
 
Cal-gun Fan said:
I hear a lot of people saying that what Red Jacket does isn't that impressive, or that they talk about things they do like they are new concepts. Well, in many cases, they are to be honest. Anyone ever seen a suppressed shotgun before they made one? Nope.
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Sure, you can't swing a dead cat in england without hitting a suppressed shotgun. It's not even a new idea.
 
They lie too much and say they "changed the game".

Underbarreled shotgun on an AR?!?!?!! Oh wait, Colt Masterkey. Made before I was born.
Suppressed shotgun!?!?! Oh wait, been done. And they didn't do very well.
Tacticooled a Thompson machine gun!?!?!?! They should be burned at the stake.
Grenade launcher is a 37mm flare attachment that you or I can mail order right now.


The only cool one was restoring the old Marine's flamethrower that he used in WWII.

They also make guns sound dangerous and evil. When the Thompson mag-dumps in full-auto even after he let the trigger go he says "this thing is a death trap! anyone standing near this thing would die!!!!!" all dramatically.

Way to make guns and gun owners look safe and responsible to the masses
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That and I hate all reality TV except for Top Shot. And I even turn that off when they are just arguing and not shooting.
 
Keep in mind that this is reality TV and there is nothing real about reality TV. There is a story producer who is making stuff up and trying to make some normal people more "interesting" for TV.
 
DammitBoy said:
Sure, you can't swing a dead cat in england without hitting a suppressed shotgun. It's not even a new idea.
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Can you link me to some? And not some experimental thing, but something that actually works and is simple and wieldy, like their S12?

I do wish they would expand their horizons past the AK platform though, they seem to be really trapping themselves inside of that box.

+1 to Justin, too. Thats a great way to look at it!
 
I like the show for all of fussing of the daughter and the others in the shop. I wish I had the know how and the ability to create and analyze how o do whatever it is theyre doing.
Honestly some of the posters here have to lighten up a bit,this is a reality show and to me a hell of lot better than Survivor,American Idol or The Great Race. Can't stand any of the mentioned shows BTW.
 
As much as it pains me to admit, the first episode of season 2 was more palatable than any of season 1's episodes. Incredibly dumb waste of three AR's though.....However, they could have a future career in plumbing. I was surprised when they did not put a handle on the thing for shooting from the hip!
But it looks like the cast finally came to grips with 'this is a reality TV show and not reality'. It seems that they can finally all play their scripted parts without taking themselves too seriously this time around. Although, 'chipmunk girl' is still infinitely annoying....but she has majority ownership of the shop right? So she can do whatever she pleases. Just wish she would not start every sentence with; "Ummmullllll....", or "Unnnnngggghhhhh", etc.

I'll watch it....I'll suspend my disbelief....I can always fast-forward or hit delete if it gets too annoying. ;)

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I watch the show sometimes...they wanna over-drama everything, but it's funny to see folks I know on TV for no good reason.
 
RyanAnchors said:
Nearly everything they claim they have invented existed before hand.
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That's one of the most amusing things about the show. When I watch it with my teenage kids I hear "dad, isn't that 'invention' just like that old XXX gun you have?" a lot. :D

All in all, the show isn't that bad, IMO. If you don't take everything they say literally or too seriously, it's good entertainment. I still prefer Ermey's Lock and Load and especially Tales of the gun on History channel, but as a rule of the thumb, any show that has something to do with guns is good in my book. Even some episodes of Mythbusters; to some that might be a stretch, though...
 
I don't think 7.62 x 39 really has the power and stability to accurately fly 1,000 yards.
 
I don't think 7.62 x 39 really has the power and stability to accurately fly 1,000 yards.
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I'm guessing they're talking about using a Saiga .308 as the platform for that project.
 
Two junk shows come together

I saw part of a commercial showing the red jacket boys and the bunch from occ comeing together to do a more screwed up show than usually. The channel is truely scrape'n the bottom of the barrel. Got to have a chrome plated machine gun bike.
 
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yup, .308 with 1:10 twist...

I know a lot of people complained when Will fired those blanks in season 1...

did anyone see when he fired the arrow gun inside? (I didn't see it 100%, glanced away)...

think he would have learned not to do that from season 1 huh?
 
I think of it a OCC lite.. Arguing, moaning, groaning, and deadlines..... There are many safety issues... No real "gunsmithing" as I know it... I saw and liked the Flame Thrower Episode, but after that.. it's just Boring TV..

Many posters in my opinion are right.. they really do not show us in a real positive light..
But the gun culture has gone mainstream.... again... I was a way of life when I was growing up...
 
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