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[WvaBill]

It is easy to say don't break the law when I haven't had to go to a "posted" establishment, aside from the schools for, well, for a long time.

OTOH, I obtained a NH permit to CC on vacation. When I looked at the travesty that is NC carry laws, I dropped the idea. Now when I went to PA, different story up there, especially central PA. Going to PA, I havent figured how to circumvent MD entirely in only one day.:banghead:

I look at that and wonder how so many abbreviations make such perfect sense.

 

[WayneConrad]

• I carry openly unless the rare cold weather has me wearing a jacket.
• If someone doesn't want my gun, they don't want my business either. What the law says I can get away with, or what I think I could hide, has nothing to do with it. If I sneak my gun in and give them my money, I'm not doing myself any favors in the long run. Even if I have to pay 15 cents more for that Twinkie, I'd rather give my money to someone who does not discriminate.
• It is just flat out impolite to carry that gun into the store after the store owner, via his sign, has told me in plain language that he doesn't permit guns in his store.

 

[sturmruger]

I just carry anyways it isn't worth all the hassle. No one has ever caught me legally carrying my pistol into a posted establishment and I doubt they ever will.

 

[neoncowboy]

I'm beginning to see this as a total non-issue. Unless there are metal detectors and LEO stationed at the entrance (like the courthouse, which I already avoid at all costs)...who knows if you're carrying or not?

I guess in my daily routine I sometimes wind up armed in places where either the proporietor or the state's overly restricted (ie: infringement) law objects. Whatever. I have a personal policy of keeping the thing concealed, minding my own business and not bothering folks. Adhering to that policy, I've noticed that nobody has complained against me and don't expect them to.

 

[Biker]

Indeed. Most mornings I go for a 3 AM walk and end up at the track at a local elementary school for a few speed-walk laps. It never occured to me until this thread that I was illegaly carrying. Strange to think that I could go to jail for such a thing...
Biker

 

[TexasRifleman]

Indeed. Most mornings I go for a 3 AM walk and end up at the track at a local elementary school for a few speed-walk laps. It never occured to me until this thread that I was illegaly carrying. Strange to think that I could go to jail for such a thing...
Biker

Are you sure? the definition of "premise" is kinda vague in some states.

In Texas it excludes "sidewalks and driveways", not sure where a track would fall into that.

 

[neoncowboy]

Strange to think that I could go to jail for such a thing...

Isn't it weird the kind of things that are 'criminal' anymore?:banghead:

 

[Biker]

I'm not sure either. I should check the regs. I was under the impression that the law applied to school property.
Time for a bit of research...
Biker

 

[Bobo]

For Virginia this is a summation of the law from Packing.org:
Places off-limits while carrying
Date updated: Oct 23, 2005 @ 10:09 am

No person shall carry a concealed handgun onto the premises of any restaurant or club as defined in §4.1-100 for which a license to sell and serve alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption has been granted by the Virginia Alcoholic Beverage Control Board under Title 4.1 of the Code of Virginia, nothing herein shall prohibit any owner or event sponsor or his employees from carrying a concealed handgun while on duty at such restaurant or club if such person has a concealed handgun permit. NOTE: only concealed handguns are prohibited - openly carried handguns are allowed.

Private property when prohibited by the owner of the property, or where posted as prohibited. Violation is a trespass charge and not a firearms violation.

Carrying dangerous weapon to place of religious worship while a meeting for religious purposes is being held unless you have "good and sufficient reason." There is no known definition of what a good and sufficient reason would be. Violation is a minor crime, punishible by a fine of up to $100.

Courthouse. Violation is a high-level misdemeanor.

School property/school functions unless gun is unloaded, in an enclosed container (but NOT in the glove box or console) and in the vehicle. A car's trunk is considered an enclosed container. However, a concealed handgun permit holder can have a loaded, concealed handgun in the vehicle while in the school parking lot, traffic circle, etc. The concealed handgun and the permit holder must stay in the vehicle. Firearms are not banned from property open to the public where a school function is being held unless that property is being used exclusively for the school function. Violation of this statute is a felony.

Virginia Commonwealth University (8VAC90-10-50). Violation is a trespass charge
Non-secure areas of airport terminals are off limits unless you are a passenger and you have your gun unloaded, in a locked container in your checked luggage, and declare the gun at the check-in counter. Violation is a high-level misdemeanor.
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When carrying I'm always carrying concealed where legal. So when I enter a place that posts I continue to carry. If for any reason I am asked to leave I will. This has yet to happen.

 

[Thefabulousfink]

I generally carry everywhere, except where I could get in serious trouble (i.e. Court house, police station, etc.). I am taking night classes right now and I don't like the idea of walking to my car (which can be two blocks away) at 10:00pm by my self w/o a gun. I am not allowed to carry a gun in school buildings, so I don't talk about it or wave it around. But, as soon as I steep out that door onto the city street it is legal, and I am not going to purposely disarm myself.

Mabey if they had an arms locker in the building I would consider locking up my gun while I was in class, but what if something happened then. All it would have taken to end Columbine is one teacher with a Kimber Pro-Carry.