Quick question: Does Glock have second strike setup??
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Sam1911
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On the non-tactical side of the argument, one advantage to second strike capability is dry fire practice. It's one thing I miss in my Ruger LC9 which, though DAO, will not reset the trigger without racking the slide. I find the ability to repeatedly dry fire important exercise for developing a consistent trigger pull on a long DAO trigger.
My previous carry piece was a S&W M36, so that's where I'm coming from. Despite the lack of tactical utility for second strike, I'd rather have it than not.
My previous carry piece was a S&W M36, so that's where I'm coming from. Despite the lack of tactical utility for second strike, I'd rather have it than not.
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Which is true, IF the second-strike pull is similar to the pull the gun normally gives you.
We have a member here who bought one of the little Taurus slim autos which is supposed to work as an SAO, with safety, but also has "second strike" (uhhh, "strike two?"
) capability. He COULD dryfire by clicking away at that double-action pull, but the gun will never present that pull in live fire, unless there's a malfunction. (<....must ... not ... make .... inevitable ... Taurus ... jab ....>).
So, if your've got a DAO gun, a revolver, or a DA/SA gun and you really want to work on that first shot, a "second strike" gun might still need to be reset manually to get the normal trigger pull in dryfire practice.
We have a member here who bought one of the little Taurus slim autos which is supposed to work as an SAO, with safety, but also has "second strike" (uhhh, "strike two?"
) capability. He COULD dryfire by clicking away at that double-action pull, but the gun will never present that pull in live fire, unless there's a malfunction. (<....must ... not ... make .... inevitable ... Taurus ... jab ....>).So, if your've got a DAO gun, a revolver, or a DA/SA gun and you really want to work on that first shot, a "second strike" gun might still need to be reset manually to get the normal trigger pull in dryfire practice.
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Yes, Sam, obviously one would want subsequent trigger pulls to have the same feel as the first.
Despite all of what I said above, these days I look for handguns that have short, single action triggers, because I feel it is easier to develop a consistent trigger pull on them. It's the biggest reason I want to replace the LC9- I'm realizing that long DAO triggers just aren't doing it for me.
Despite all of what I said above, these days I look for handguns that have short, single action triggers, because I feel it is easier to develop a consistent trigger pull on them. It's the biggest reason I want to replace the LC9- I'm realizing that long DAO triggers just aren't doing it for me.
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I agree, youre just training yourself to short yourself time.
Historically, for me at least, except for the occasional .22 (and with them, it was usually only those I removed and slipped back in where the second strike was in another location), the rounds that didnt go bang on the first strike, didnt go bang on subsequent strikes, so why waste the time pulling the trigger again, trying to find out?
The point of the TRB, is to train yourself to act on a stoppage response, without thought, and with a positive result, instead of standing there trying to diagnose the problem. By trying to diagnose, your interrupting your own loop, and at a time you need it most.
The TRB works across most models as well, so its an ingrained response that works, regardless of trigger type.
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