Range forces members to join the NRA

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Bazooka Joe71 stated: "How so?:

If you don't know, I'm not sure if I can explain it. Let me ask you one question... what are you doing to secure your rights as a gun owner?
If you don't belong to any pro gun organizations, I ask what will you be doing when they come for your guns or past more bs bill that restrict the ownership. This is not about "bragging rights" as someone else stated, it's about protecting your rights.

We all need to get on the same page and stick together.
 
TAB--This reminds me of the old viewpoint of Better dead than red what a asinine outlook. Give up your freedome over whatever your problem is with the NRA. You sir have a problem.
 
let me ask you possum what have you done to secure your rights?

How many rallys have you been too, how many phone calls, how many letters?
 
TAB--This reminds me of the old viewpoint of Better dead than red what a asinine outlook. Give up your freedome over whatever your problem is with the NRA. You sir have a problem.
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I never said I would give up my "freedoms" I do alot to preserve that right, every single time my states law makers try to pass laws that restrict them, they get a letter, phone call and an email. I was lucky enough to attend a rally this year at the capitol as well. I just will not rejoin the NRA, atleast not with out drastic changes to it. If anything this thread is a perfect example of the nra... "join us or... blah blah blah"
 
How many lawyers have you helped to hire to support the RTKABA? Have you ever been THE ONE to stop a law or ordinance from being enacted which would have limited the RTKABA?
 
How many lawyers have you helped to hire to support the RTKABA? Have you ever been THE ONE to stop a law or ordinance from being enacted which would have limited the RTKABA?
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you 1st.
 
Tab, I belong to the NRA, GOA Indiana gunowners, and I write, call and meet with my elected officals on all things that I believe in including all parts of the Bill of Rights. As far as rallys I have attended my share. Now how about you?

If you have a problem with the NRA, then I am sorry. But do you just stand on the sidelines and do nothing?

My other question to you is who are you to question me?
 
Tab, first of all I have not questioned you one bit on what you do for your rights until you questioned me on what I do.

But I'm done with this. You are like trying to convince an anti. Good luck in your pursuits.
 
I wouldnt join any club that required membership. Next thing you know, you'll have to be a member of the Repblocrats too.

The NRA needs all the drama, just like the politicians do. The last thing they want, is for the drama to go away, its a big part of their livelihood, just like the politicians. As with anything, its ALL about money. If they can keep you scared enough, they will continue to get yours.
 
no, you did not question mine, but you did question bazooka joes.
 
TAB stated: "no, you did not question mine, but you did question bazooka joes."

I see. you must be his spokeperson, my bad. I was trying to answer his question. If I came off short then I am sorry to bazooka joe. But I don't believe he needs you or anyone else to defend him, not that he needs defending.

Okay now I'm done. No really I am:neener:
 
I'm hoping this thing settles down before out of hand and out of THR for attitude folks !!

Their business, their choice, but not fair to people who just like to shoot and have no political interest or are politically neutral.
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Seems like some of you are missing the main point here - the NRA pays for some part of the insurance premium on the range. That means they should have some say, and some ability to recover the money that NRA members have paid in to subsidize your range ! Is joining them such a heavy burdon for a person who wants a range to shoot at ?

I think its fair - "the NRA is paying part of the operating cost of the range" .
 
The local club here requires NRA membership as a prereq to join the range.

The NRA is definitely not perfect, but it is the most visible, most vocal and most effective 2AD advocate in Washington.
 
Their business, their choice, but not fair to people who just like to shoot and have no political interest or are politically neutral.
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Maybe people who think that way should be willing to pay the difference between the NRA subsidized insurance and the amount that would be required otherwise.

Its just like carrying a gun. If you don't want to do it then don't. But don't complain if others do.

If you don't want to join a range/club that requires NRA membership then don't. But don't gripe about it.

You could, after all, gather up a group of like-minded people and start your own range/club that doesn't have such a rule.
 
The NRA helps keep ranges open.

Any ranges in your hometown close in the last couple of decades due to community pressure?

I have mixed feelings about joining the NRA too. But a range could just increase your dues by $100 a year instead and donate to the NRA.
 
For all those who are on edge of joining the NRA please go to www.nra.org and listen to CAM an Company every weekday between 7 to 10pm Mountain time. Very insight full to what they are all about.

At the same front page weekdays at 5pm for 30 minutes is a new news brodcast.

Its all free, If you have Sirius you can listen to Cam an Company same time on the patriot channel 144

I enjoy listening plus you can text him from the same site and ask questions. they rebroadcast on the off hours.
 
The NRA needs all the drama, just like the politicians do. The last thing they want, is for the drama to go away, its a big part of their livelihood, just like the politicians. As with anything, its ALL about money. If they can keep you scared enough, they will continue to get yours.
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No, the NRA needs numbers, real numbers that can be brought against the numbers that the anti's make up as they go. With real numbers of members, the NRA can honestly say "We have more than 4 million law abiding citizens that disagree with you, Mr. Schumer."

The actions of the NRA does not scare me, the actions of politicians who's stated goal are to eliminate YOUR RIGHT to keep and bear arms....despite swearing to God to uphold that very right...scares the hell out of me. The NRA has vowed to fight these politicians all the way, while the politicians have vowed to screw you.

The NRA is NOT a government voting body, but they are the most powerful voice and lobby for the preservation of the 2nd Amendment, as they help push pro-gun bills, and fight anti-gun lies. They cannot make laws, but they do fight for those that keep your guns in your house and hands.

Joining costs as much as a box of ammo, is that too much?
 
MY 2 cents
Im an NRA lifer!
I belonged to a club as there Sgt@arms . At a meeting I proposed that we as a whole take 10 min every meeting and we write a letter to 1 of our represenitives--I would supply the pens and paper and Envelopes and stamps !
MY motion could not get a second To My motion !!!
I was PIZZZZEEEDDDD OFF to say the least.!!!!
Most members did not belong to any shooting org. Many were Golfers with guns-[when it gets bad Ill put my trap gun away and go golfing]
The rest were Union guys who voted Democrat [or what ever the union told them to do ]
Im so happy some Gun Clubs actually force there members to take a stand for the rights they enjoy! Good for them ..!!!!
I had a sign on my gun show table ==It read ---IF your not regestered to vote-You dont deserve to own a gun....!!!!!!
And i got a bunch of krap over it too from the Non voters who rode the wagon and never helped fight the fight ....
 
If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. I cannot believe or understand why gun owners are not members of the NRA, GOA, etc.
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If you don't know, I'm not sure if I can explain it.
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Point taken, because you sure as heck didn't. I know you said you're done, so I am basically wasting my breath, but to narrow my question of "how so" down, I would just like you to explain to me how me not pumping money into a pro-gun organization is making me a part of the problem? The problem is antis trying to take our guns away...Am I trying to take your guns away?

BTW, you didn't come across as short to me, so no apology is necessary.
 
In AOPA (Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association), we have a saying and that is, "We have met the enemy, and it is us."

That saying gets trotted out when fellow pilots do or say things that are so beyond stupid that they leave people shaking their heads in disbelief.

The NRA needs all the drama, just like the politicians do. The last thing they want, is for the drama to go away, its a big part of their livelihood, just like the politicians. As with anything, its ALL about money. If they can keep you scared enough, they will continue to get yours.
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We have met the enemy, and it is us.

I continue to have a hard time grasping and accepting how much sheer ignorance there still is within our gun-owners and gun-rights community.

Let's do a little refreshing on the "drama" and manufactured "fear" of the past few decades and how the NRA created it or fostered it or fueled it simply to feed the money machine.

Bear with me while some of us old-timers take a stroll down Memory Lane--

Anyone besides me remember any of this?

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Every single person who owns a Glock or any other "plastic" gun can thank the NRA for defeating this--

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How many states would have Concealed Carry Laws were it not for the NRA's efforts, clout and guidance? How many states would not have The Castle Doctrine were it not for the NRA? How many of you NRA-naysayers hired lawyers to help Katrina victims try and recover their CONFISCATED firearms (not suppoed to happen in America, is it?) or hired lawyers to help ensure that it would never happen again.

I guess all that was just a bunch of hyped up drama, too.

Jeff
 
Many ranges/clubs get their liability insurance threw the NRA. Being a member is usually a prerequisite for the policy. My club uses the NRA insurance, and we have over 400 non LE members that are insured with the NRA. The police departments carry their own liability so we don't have to count them for our policy.

The club might let you join if you show proof of your own liability insurance. But that will cost you more than the 40 bucks to the NRA.
 
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