Panthera Tigris
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My dad's a fairly big guy, and he prefers the .410 for home defense to any other gauge.
Recoil: 20 gauge vs 410
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Recoil is really funny. If I am sitting down at a bench and shooting or standing and shooting at a pattern board, I'll feel the recoil, and how. If I am hunting or shooting clays, I never feel a thing. If you focus on what it is going to feel like, it will kick pretty hard. If you are focussing on a moving target, you won't even notice. Kind of like getting an injection - if you watch the needle go in, you always seem to feel it more than if you look the other way. A long way around to saying that just about anyone who can shoot a .410 can handle a 20 or 12 gauge if there isn't a medical situation and the gun fits.
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Hi Shel....
What part of TenTuckee do you live in? And CONGRATULATIONS on your escape from Illanoise !!!
What part of TenTuckee do you live in? And CONGRATULATIONS on your escape from Illanoise !!!
I always find the diversity of answers to this type a question to be very interesting . Hard not to make my own 2 cents worth of comments so here that is :
The reason that little .410 kicked more than expected was that it is very light weight and with 3 inch shells it does have a little extra kick (about as much as you will ever find in a .410 .
It's my opinion that a 20ga. is much better for HD and I personaly choose it over a 12ga. for this purpose. For me it is about the handling and weight. The 20ga. handles more like a carbine . It has plenty of power to get the job done and it has less recoil. OK , it delivers less of a payload than a 12 ga. , but what is wrong with the energy level of 2 X .357 mag. ? #3 buckshot is in a 2&3/4 inch shell is just fine.
In a pump gun you will find the recoil of this load comparable with that .410 you fired. Not soft, but managable. You can use lighter loads for practice and have less recoil. You can also consider a gas operated auto like the youth model Remington 1100 . The auto tames the recoil even more - they are twice the price however.
With all that said, my main go to for HD is a handgun . It is easy to grab and quick to put into action. However, I do have a 20ga. pump gun with short barrel sitting within arms reach . I think it would depend on the circumstances which one I would deploy .
OK - I used up my 2 cents - good luck with your choice, but see if you can shoot the gun (or one like it) before you decide. Also read Pax's web site - great info there to consider.
The reason that little .410 kicked more than expected was that it is very light weight and with 3 inch shells it does have a little extra kick (about as much as you will ever find in a .410 .
It's my opinion that a 20ga. is much better for HD and I personaly choose it over a 12ga. for this purpose. For me it is about the handling and weight. The 20ga. handles more like a carbine . It has plenty of power to get the job done and it has less recoil. OK , it delivers less of a payload than a 12 ga. , but what is wrong with the energy level of 2 X .357 mag. ? #3 buckshot is in a 2&3/4 inch shell is just fine.
In a pump gun you will find the recoil of this load comparable with that .410 you fired. Not soft, but managable. You can use lighter loads for practice and have less recoil. You can also consider a gas operated auto like the youth model Remington 1100 . The auto tames the recoil even more - they are twice the price however.
With all that said, my main go to for HD is a handgun . It is easy to grab and quick to put into action. However, I do have a 20ga. pump gun with short barrel sitting within arms reach . I think it would depend on the circumstances which one I would deploy .
OK - I used up my 2 cents - good luck with your choice, but see if you can shoot the gun (or one like it) before you decide. Also read Pax's web site - great info there to consider.
Panthera Tigris
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My gun shop sold me some 12 gauge home defense loads called:
Brenneke Tactical Home Defense reduced recoil shotgun slug cartridges for smoothbore and rifled barrels. 2.75 size in one ounce loads.
I haven't fired them yet, but I haven't had a chance to fire my shotgun at all since I bought it.
I was told they are very light recoil however, and very effective self defense loads.
Brenneke Tactical Home Defense reduced recoil shotgun slug cartridges for smoothbore and rifled barrels. 2.75 size in one ounce loads.
I haven't fired them yet, but I haven't had a chance to fire my shotgun at all since I bought it.
I was told they are very light recoil however, and very effective self defense loads.
Shel
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To answer the question as to my part of KY, I live in Western KY
It is going to be a little while before I can afford to buy myelf a shotgun... With Christmas, car tax and license coming up, car insurance, high winter heat bills, this winter is going to be pretty brutal for me
I am not a hunter, the shotgun would be used for self defense, and maybe some plinking for fun.
It is going to be a little while before I can afford to buy myelf a shotgun... With Christmas, car tax and license coming up, car insurance, high winter heat bills, this winter is going to be pretty brutal for me
I am not a hunter, the shotgun would be used for self defense, and maybe some plinking for fun.
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