Recommendations for a SHTF .22?

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Kel-tec

For lightweight and stowing capabilities, the kel-tec plr-22 or su-22 with underfolding stock is a nice option. I have heard a lot of good things about them. The problem is availability. A bit tough to find in today's market.

check over at www.ktog.org for reviews. Gunbroker to buy.
 
King, I totally agree. I have a Remington 514 single shot I feel that way about. I've had it for 51 years.
 
In a real SHTF situation, I would rather carry my .22 pistol in a backpack for hunting small game, and carry my AK for the rifle part. My Ruger MKIII is very capable out to 50 yards, my 10/22 will only extend that capability out to 100 yards. The AK on the other hand is good past 300 yards. If I have to lug a rifle around, I want one that will function at rifle ranges. As for a survival gun... a .22 pistol with a few thousand rounds will do the job for me.
Come to think of it, a Ruger Single Six would make a perfect survival gun.
 
Just because the Marlin is cheaper doesn't mean it's better.

You are right, cheaper doesn't always mean better. That said, in my experience (and I have owned a number of each) the marlin is the better gun between it and the 10/22. I have had a number of 10/22s and out of the box the marlin 60 is more accurate, and reliable with a much wider range of ammo, and it costs about 1/2. Now I have tricked out at couple of 10/22s and they were great ........ after I spent another $200 -$300 on them. I have owned and shot Mossbergs, stevens, remmington, browning, and winchesters, and for the money the little Marlin is the best value. It shoots as accurately as guns costing 3-4 times as much and they are in my experience more reliable with a wider variety of ammo than most of those same guns. BUT semi's of any type will rarely be as reliable as other actions. That is especially true of rimfires.

I have owned a number of different pumps and like the remington best. I have an old alloy rec. remington that is a sweet shooting thing. Very reliable, and extremely accurate.

In my experience bolt rifles are a little more price dependent. High dollar guns are usually that much better than cheapo's with the Anshutz being at the top of the ladder. But in the LT $300 range the Marlin is still a decent option. They shoot great, are tough, solid made, and you usually can find a decent used 25 with the synthetic stock for $100 -125. My only real complaint with them is the triggers which are ok, but not great.

As for lever guns, I have owned and shot Winchesters, Brownings, Marlins, the Ruger 96/22, and the new henry. Overall these are all great guns. IMHO the Winchester and the Browning are the "prettiest" of the lot, the Marlin 39 is the best shooter, and most solidly built (I own 3 currently), but unless you scrounge around all of these are gonna be above you $300 target. The Henry is a very good little rifle that is worth the money, but I would still hold out for the Marlin. They are built like a center fire rifle, tough, break down into 2 pcs for storage, carry, or cleaning, and unless they are abused they will be working well for the next 100+ years.

Now for the OPs question were I looking for a SHTF .22 it would be a little tube fed Marlin 25. Bolt actions have less that can go wrong with them than any of the other actions, tube feeding is more reliable (in my experience), plus the tube is less likely to be lost or damaged than a mag. For $300 you can likely buy 2 of them and a couple or three thousand rounds of ammo. They are accurate, reliable, tough made, and parts are readily available so you can stock some spare parts. Maybe that not as sexy as a tricked out camo tacticool 10/22, but I think it would serve a person well.
 
Actually the Marlin Model 60 is about $40 cheaper than the Ruger 10/22. Should something go wrong with the Marlin's tubular magazine, you could end up with a $50 repair bill. Not so with the Ruger. Something goes wrong with it's magazine, you just buy another magazine. I'm not saying that the Marlin is a bad gun. They'll both run if kept clean. I'm just saying what I think is the better gun.
 
semi auto .22's like the Ruger 10/22 will certainly jam from time to time. However, in my experience, the "jams" are nothing more than the empty cases getting pinched by the bolt before they fully clear the chamber. This generally requires you to pull back about 1/2 inch to clear the case (you may have to tilt the rifle a little to the right and let gravity to the rest).

In 15+ years of shooting the rugers I've never had any other types of "jams" such as FTF or FTE's. The time it takes to clear the casings is still half the time it would take to cycle a bolt action.

Sure a single shot is the most reliable, but I'd encourage you to think about practical usage and even a little bit of fun. In that case a semi-auto is the way to go be it a ruger or other brand.
 
I REALLY appreciate all the helpful responses!!! I can tell that asking which .22 rifle I should get is a little like asking "who has the best Mom?" :) Of course, that would be a silly question, because I already know the answer to that one.

Some good ideas for a SHTF .22, and other options for SHTF. A .22 pistol is a good idea (along with a SD rifle of a real caliber). However, I was kinda thinking that getting food would be most important, most of the time, and accuracy would suffer with a pistol, and I would not be shooting in a warm range with a good rest. If I could get something that was accurate and that folds or comes apart, I'd have the best of both worlds. I was considering a Marlin Papoose or even a Henry Survival Rifle.

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Although, I am not overwhelmed with confidence in accuracy in a gun that comes apart.

As far as the request to have a scope mount, I do want this rifle to be a very capable fun-gun too. I really do not want a single-shot rifle. This gun should be good for plinking at the range, so I'd like something that can hold 5 rounds, AT A BARE MINIMUM. I like the design and simplicity of bolt action rifles, so I think that is the way I want to go. For the same price, shouldn't a bolt action be more accurate than a semi-auto too?

Also, thanks for the pictures too! Any more suggestions are certainly welcome!
 
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Look no further. Clearly, the above rifle is the ne plus ultra of the practical .22, surpassed by no other. ;)

It's a 22" stainless 10/22 with XS sights and a synthetic stock. The trigger group has a VQ hammer and an extended mag release. The butt cuff holds three spare magazines on the gun, in case of zombie squirrel attack.

Without a doubt, the most fun gun to shoot that I own. It has run well over 6,000 rounds this year, with maybe two or three malfunctions. During that time it was cleaned a grand total of once, at about 5K. It gets rained on, sweated on, and it's stored in the trunk of the car. The only issue is that the nylon sling soaks up rain like a sponge. It needs a less porous replacement.
 
How important is semi automatic in the decision? If that's what interests you, +1 for the 10/22. Have shot a bird clean out of the sky with one of those things, they are accurate light weight and dependable. The remingong nylon guns are interesting too, but have never got my hands on one in person.

If the semi auto isn't the world, which hunting with a .22 it may or may not be, I would definately check out the Henry lever actions. Have had my eye on one in .17 for awhile now
 
Many good choices, I have a neat little bolt action made by Daisy a few years back. I bought it as a teaching tool as it has a stock that is adjustable for length. It's very light, uses rotary mags, is a take down. It's also unusual in that the barrel is plastic with a steel liner. It's not as accurate as my target
10/22 but handy. I don't think they are made anymore.
 
I'll stick with my Henry(of the lever variety), it will eat CBs all day long. If I'm hunting for food I'd rather not attract to much attention, those CBs are quiet.:)
 
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Something that won't quit

Bolt action single shot that will chamber all of the .22's.
No magazines to get lost, tubes to bend, just keep shooting.
 
I'd probably go for a bolt action sporter. Savage, CZ, Marlin, whatever. They will all do the job and as long as even somewhat cared for will keep doing the job until all your ammo runs out.

I'd steer towards a lighter .22 as opposed to something with a heavy barrel since you'll likely be toting it around quite a bit. I'd probably make sure it has iron sights even if you intend to scope it. That way should somehitng happen to the scope, it's still usable.
 
I am a big fan of th CZ 452s. Excellent rifle, and you can easily expect 2MOA right out of the box.

However, if you want a true survival rifle, I would recommend the Springfield M6 Scout. Yes, it is a single shot rifle. But unlike all the other 22s listed, if you should happen upon a deer while rabbit hunting, you cock the hammer, press down on the hammer selecter, and shoot him with the .410 OOO buck loaded in the lower barrel. Winchester makes a nice 3 pellet load.

It folds in half too.
 
What does SHTF mean to you? When I think SHTF, I think about maybe, at some point, getting caught out & away from my tens of thousands of rounds of premium .22 ammo I have stockpiled. With that in mind, the idea of having a .22 rifle that will use ANY .22 ammo sounds pretty good. Look at Henry & Marlin lever actions and the .22 bolt guns. You can single load them very easily with almost any .22 ammo that you can scrounge up.
Just think about it. Semi auto is fun, but the point is to be as flexible as possible in the SHTF scenario, right? Thus, you need to be able to use a broad a range of .22 ammo as possible.
For "survival", look for mechanism reliability and ammo flexibility, not rate of fire.
 
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Shooter;

A gun you might want to consider is an original Ruger 77/22 with the near-to-indestructable synthetic boat oar stock. They are available in stainless & with iron sights.

The only thing it misses on is the folder stock. However, you get the dead reliability of a bolt action, very decent accuracy, and stainless/syn with iron sights. Finding one will probably be a considerable adventure. Finding one cheap might be a life's work.

Then there's the Savage MKII GL youth. It's a very decent bolt gun with a down-sized stock, and the barreled action can be put into the adult stock if you so desire. An advantage there is it's also available in left hand bolt. Also, it's currently available and very affordable.

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I love the 10/22 but lately, Ruger's QC seems to be a little spotty. I've bought two Rugers in the last year that have needed repairs to work right. The 10/22 needed a VQ extractor to get it reliable - small fix but I still shouldn't have had to fix a new gun.
Having said that, I'd buy another one.

The CZ-452 is also an excellent choice. They're deadly accurate and will work with any .22 ammo that will fit the chamber.

I prefer to avoid tube fed guns because the magazine tube/feed mechanism is a complex little critter. I've seen a few get messed up and require complete rebuilds to work again.
With a detachable magazine gun, you just slap another magazine in and the problem is fixed.
 
If I were staying home in a fan situation (which I would), I would go with the Ruger. IF I were in the woods, then I would probably go with a tubular magazine bolt action 22 rifle such as one of the old Remingtons or current Marlin. If more than one person is involved, you can pack two or a centerfire also.

Pistol is a good choice, but it takes a lot more practice to be able to shoot a squirrel or rabbit at normal ranges with the handgun. I would choose the Ruger Mark III with 5.5" heavy bull barrel. Yes, it is scopable.
 
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