Ruger 10/22
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JR47
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"Yeah having a different color barrel is the same as having a rifle with a heavy barrel compared to a sporter barrel. Yeah "my" logic is flawed. I actually thought some people might want to hear the truth. And how rifles feel for "you" is hardly a standard for the rest of the world. I have an older blued model 60 and a new stainless 60SS. BTW I paid $175 for the 60SS. Marlin raised the price because people will pay it. There isn't a bit of difference between it and the older blued version when it comes to operation. Yes the barrel is shorter because people liked the look of the tube matching the length of the barrel. But all 60's changed, not just a distinct model. And that baloney about the range master looking at you funny for loading a 60 just means you have a goofy range master.
Ruger people are so set in their ways they have no idea that a whole lot of people think they are extremists about their rifles. I'm not a Ruger hater. I have a Ruger and I'd like to have several others including a 10/22 if I could afford to build one to be accurate. But I will tell you that I've seen polls of the most overrated guns and the 10/22 was #1 on that list. Too many people think they are the greatest rifles ever made. They aren't. Not even close. Neither is a Marlin but at least I know it. I also know that when people (you) start saying they're better than CZ's we're getting deep in the "overrated" zone.
I can tell you the group sizes I shot with my new Marlin 60SSW compared to my friends new 10/22 Sporter but it would fall on deaf ears I'm sure. So you keep your magnificent Ruger while I keep my tree branch Marlin and I'll keep on shooting .38" groups at 90 yards and killing squirrels with a bullet right behind it's ear from 50 yards. I've certainly seen Rugers that could shoot that way but they weren't stock.
Mainly if I see some outrageous claims about Rugers being made I will probably toss in my 2 cents. And declaring a Ruger is better than a CZ is one of those things that is hard to swallow. It's VERY hard to swallow. If you're going to make comments like that expect others to counter your claims."
Don't get your panties in a knot. So far, you're the only person to think that the Marlin 60 is anything special. It isn't. I would suggest that it isn't the majority of the poster here who have a sore spot with the 10/22, just YOU.
FYI, if you're going to be talking "you", make sure that you're quoting "me". I never said anything about a Range Master, nor did I say that the 10/22 was more accurate than a CZ. Grow up, and keep on the subject. I have NEVER seen a Marlin 60, in 66 years, that would hold .38" groups at 90 yards. I'm going to call BS on that. Yes, the Marlin 60 is too slim for me, and that's EXACTLY what I said. I, at least, don't try to purtray my opinions as facts. Where are all of those polls about the Ruger 10/22. You brought it up, make believe you're competent, and show them to us. Remember, it was PollS.
If you don't like the 10/22, why are you here, trying to pretend that another rifle is so much better? I own a Pair of marlin Model 60 rifles. I like them, but the 10/22 fits me better, and overall, is a better gun. You don't even own one, but you're an expert on them. Like it or not, my 10/22 rifles ARE more accurate with favored loads than either my Remington 552 or 572. I own all of these rifles, and can spend time trying them, and comparing them. Do you?
Just another key-board expert. :banghead::banghead:
Ruger people are so set in their ways they have no idea that a whole lot of people think they are extremists about their rifles. I'm not a Ruger hater. I have a Ruger and I'd like to have several others including a 10/22 if I could afford to build one to be accurate. But I will tell you that I've seen polls of the most overrated guns and the 10/22 was #1 on that list. Too many people think they are the greatest rifles ever made. They aren't. Not even close. Neither is a Marlin but at least I know it. I also know that when people (you) start saying they're better than CZ's we're getting deep in the "overrated" zone.
I can tell you the group sizes I shot with my new Marlin 60SSW compared to my friends new 10/22 Sporter but it would fall on deaf ears I'm sure. So you keep your magnificent Ruger while I keep my tree branch Marlin and I'll keep on shooting .38" groups at 90 yards and killing squirrels with a bullet right behind it's ear from 50 yards. I've certainly seen Rugers that could shoot that way but they weren't stock.
Mainly if I see some outrageous claims about Rugers being made I will probably toss in my 2 cents. And declaring a Ruger is better than a CZ is one of those things that is hard to swallow. It's VERY hard to swallow. If you're going to make comments like that expect others to counter your claims."
Don't get your panties in a knot. So far, you're the only person to think that the Marlin 60 is anything special. It isn't. I would suggest that it isn't the majority of the poster here who have a sore spot with the 10/22, just YOU.
FYI, if you're going to be talking "you", make sure that you're quoting "me". I never said anything about a Range Master, nor did I say that the 10/22 was more accurate than a CZ. Grow up, and keep on the subject. I have NEVER seen a Marlin 60, in 66 years, that would hold .38" groups at 90 yards. I'm going to call BS on that. Yes, the Marlin 60 is too slim for me, and that's EXACTLY what I said. I, at least, don't try to purtray my opinions as facts. Where are all of those polls about the Ruger 10/22. You brought it up, make believe you're competent, and show them to us. Remember, it was PollS.
If you don't like the 10/22, why are you here, trying to pretend that another rifle is so much better? I own a Pair of marlin Model 60 rifles. I like them, but the 10/22 fits me better, and overall, is a better gun. You don't even own one, but you're an expert on them. Like it or not, my 10/22 rifles ARE more accurate with favored loads than either my Remington 552 or 572. I own all of these rifles, and can spend time trying them, and comparing them. Do you?
Just another key-board expert. :banghead::banghead:
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ColtPythonElite
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That's impressive, especially with a 4x scope.
Armybrat
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Bought these two new in the '70s for my sons (and one more not shown from 1968) - as y'all can see, I like them stock (with the walnut stocks). 
a dime is .7" in diameter....at 50 yards, that is 1.4 MOA not that bad but not earth shattering
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BryceChambers
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I love my 10/22 fun to just go out and (cheaply) shoot. Especially for like taking my girlfriend out to shoot for the first time, she was scared of recoil so I eased her in with the 10/22 and now its like "her" gun she always wants to shoot it and when she stays home alone I leave it at her place as a "just in case" because she lives in a ghetto area (police are called at least once a week for gunshots nearby) mine though I did the quick release bolt mod to it and loved it. Right now its just a banana mag with a Red/Green dot.
Welding Rod
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If the group is covered, the diameter of the bullet would have to be subtracted too.... So less than 1 MOA.
danez71
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What was this thread about....?
Lets revisit the un-edited OP.
The OP likes his original 10/22.
The OP doesn't like how the 10/22 TD feels.
The OP wonders why nutnfancy calls it 'every mans rifle'.
The OP wonders about other peoples' reasons for owning a 10/22 TD.
And then off topic posts, clouded by brand blindness, came in and ruined the new guys thread.
Yay Highroaders!
Lets revisit the un-edited OP.
The OP likes his original 10/22.
The OP doesn't like how the 10/22 TD feels.
The OP wonders why nutnfancy calls it 'every mans rifle'.
The OP wonders about other peoples' reasons for owning a 10/22 TD.
And then off topic posts, clouded by brand blindness, came in and ruined the new guys thread.
Yay Highroaders!
Balliet
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ive replaced nothing, never a trigger job, never any service above a good cleaning. ive added a bi-pod and a scope and its the usually the most shot gun when folks are over
22250Rem
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Never planned on owning a 10/22..... Until my buddy got one from a Garage sale as part of a package deal and offered it to me for a very nice price. The thing was almost new; absolutely pristine..... I figured "what the heck", I'll buy it and just sell it if I don't like it. That was back in 1998 and it's still in my safe today. It's mainly a plinker and squirrel gun that has also done some thinning out of the local woodchuck population. It's not modified in any way except for a cheap BSA 2-7x 32mm scope. I discovered that those 10/22's are really nice little .22's that you can have a lot of fun with even if you choose to leave them "as is". I'd probably modify mine if I didn't have so many other gun projects and reloading and other things that take up my time & $$. Mine has also helped Ruger sell some more 10/22's after guys who were thinking about one got to play with mine and decided to get one of their own.
sappyg
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Didn't mean to get you so riled up Cee Zee.
I didn't say the 10/22 was The cheapest. MOST accurate. MOST reliable. MOST common. I just said that it was "cheap, accurate, reliable and common"
The fact that I mentioned the Marlin 60 along with the 10/22 was to compliment the 60 as it is the benchmark for cheapest, accurate, reliable and common to a large measure. If I wanted One. I would have one.... Maybe two.
The group I posted earlier was at 50 yards... 10 rounds... With a rifle that I have a grand total of $0.77 in after market parts from Home Depot. It's not great but it's good enough for me I guess. Plus.... I did the trigger and bolt release myself. I like that. There is nothing on a 10/22 that I can't fix or replace on my own. There is where the real value is for me.
A CZ it ain't. And I have one of those too.
I bought a used 10/22 about 30 years ago to just plink and occasionally hunt with. It is a fun and reliable little carbine. I picked up a couple others over the years at pawn shops etc for the kids.
About 2 years ago I went to an Appleseed and found out that the 10/22 is a very capable rifle. In other words, with the right sights (Tech Sights or a scope) and a sling, the 10/22 is a very good marksmanship training rifle. Appleseed taught me to shoot my 10/22 like a real rifle from standing, sitting and prone. It was an epiphany. If you have a 10/22, I highly recommend going to an Appleseed to see what you and it are capable of. www.appleseedinfo.org.
About 2 years ago I went to an Appleseed and found out that the 10/22 is a very capable rifle. In other words, with the right sights (Tech Sights or a scope) and a sling, the 10/22 is a very good marksmanship training rifle. Appleseed taught me to shoot my 10/22 like a real rifle from standing, sitting and prone. It was an epiphany. If you have a 10/22, I highly recommend going to an Appleseed to see what you and it are capable of. www.appleseedinfo.org.
Put me down as someone that just does not care for the 10/22. Yea I have one but other guns come out first. They are what they are and I get a kick out of people that dump hundreds if not thousands into that gun....what ever makes you happy.
Other guns to me are much much more fun. I have other auto loaders that are more fun, more handy, lighter, just as accurate. And bolt guns that will give even the most hot rodded 10/22 a run for its money for half the money spent.
Just not my cup of tea.
Other guns to me are much much more fun. I have other auto loaders that are more fun, more handy, lighter, just as accurate. And bolt guns that will give even the most hot rodded 10/22 a run for its money for half the money spent.
Just not my cup of tea.
mdauben
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I've got a 10/22 TD myself, and I actually love the way it feels. Just seems to fit me right, easy to handle, accurate. I'm happy with the stock 10 round mags and don't have any use for the BX-25s (although I must be the only one, as any time I try to buy 10-rounders they try and sell me the 25-rounder). Its a great gun for plinking or casual target practice and would probably make a good little squirrel/rabbit gun (although I have not used it for hunting).
I'll probably do some minor action work to smooth it out a little and give it a better trigger, but I don't have any plans for major modifications that some people do. The only other thing I did to it was add a scope, in defference to my 55 year old eyes.
The one thing I really hate about it is how the mags come in and go out. How the large cap mags hang way out the bottom....makes going prone an issue.
I like tube guns....be they under the barrel or in the stock. When I take the tube guns to different games they always have to wait for me and call me a muzzle loader....it is all good fun.
I like the looks of the wood on mine (box stock) reminds me a little of a M1 carbine. But for 22 shooting mine has not been out in YEARS. Lately an old Nylon 66 has been the autoloader of choice for me.
I like tube guns....be they under the barrel or in the stock. When I take the tube guns to different games they always have to wait for me and call me a muzzle loader....it is all good fun.
I like the looks of the wood on mine (box stock) reminds me a little of a M1 carbine. But for 22 shooting mine has not been out in YEARS. Lately an old Nylon 66 has been the autoloader of choice for me.
CajunBass
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I'm a big fan of the 10/22. At one time I had a half-dozen or so (as well as another half dozen other 22 rifles), but realized that was sort of silly when I couldn't decide which one I wanted to shoot, so I sold all but one.
The one I kept was the first one I bought. A "Wally-World Special" with a DSP style, hardwood stock, a 22" SS barrel, 4x Bushnell scope, and a "Swamp Fox" trigger job. I've never seen any reason to change anything else.
They're light, accurate enough, and inexpensive. What's not to like?
The one I kept was the first one I bought. A "Wally-World Special" with a DSP style, hardwood stock, a 22" SS barrel, 4x Bushnell scope, and a "Swamp Fox" trigger job. I've never seen any reason to change anything else.
They're light, accurate enough, and inexpensive. What's not to like?
sappyg
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What was this thread about....?
Lets revisit the un-edited OP.
The OP likes his original 10/22.
The OP doesn't like how the 10/22 TD feels.
The OP wonders why nutnfancy calls it 'every mans rifle'.
The OP wonders about other peoples' reasons for owning a 10/22 TD.
And then off topic posts, clouded by brand blindness, came in and ruined the new guys thread.
Yay Highroaders!
You're right.
Personally I prefer the basic carbine version too. The stock has a better feel in the forearm to me. The only shortcoming is the slippery but plate.
I like the TD fine though. My father has one and the stock has a thin feel to it IMO. I like it all the same but his was north of $150 more than my carbines. I don't like the TD THAT much.
The BX25 mags are nice but mine required some tinkering to get them to run as smooth as the 10 rounders. They are a bit of a novelty.
I avoid nutnfancy so I can't speak to his comments on the 10/22. He likes it and so do many others.
My dad got his TD because he thought it was a neat deal. Since then it's had 1 scope and 1 RDS and lots of rounds down range. i did fix the bolt release for him. He likes it so that's all that matters. It's a great excuse to hang out and have some fun.
Skylerbone
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Calling it everyman's rifle IMO is a reasonable assessment of the 10/22. As I too avoid señor N.F. I'm assuming he isn't necessarily speaking of the TD specifically but rather the 10/22 action. The shear number of configurations possible gives nearly every man, woman and child a rifle suitable for most any purpose. Whether every single man likes it does not disqualify it from that title nor does the existence of a cheaper alternative like the Marlin which, while a solid design in its own right is not nearly so versatile.
Very good wright up. But I look at it as the rifle as from Ruger. What you can make it into is a different area IMHO. I do agree that the little carbine versions are handy, light, and a great value. But (I) really like other types better....that is why they make them...if we all liked the same thing it would be a bore.
Perhaps I will dust off the old 10/22 again and see if it speaks to me this time around....as we get older our tastes change. I think the last time it was out was at a small bore match about 2-3 years ago and my wife shot it.
As much as I like the take down models (I have 2)....... I still prefer the older simple 10-22 Carbines a tad better.
Both are plenty accurate, and the TD's are proving to be just as reliable as my older versions are.
My oldest 10-22 was built in 1969 and is just as accurate/reliable as any.
Both are plenty accurate, and the TD's are proving to be just as reliable as my older versions are.
My oldest 10-22 was built in 1969 and is just as accurate/reliable as any.
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