Expanding on my previous thread (LCP vs seecamp) several things seem to have a common denominator. First, 99% of the seecamp owners really like their gun, second, there seems to be general agreement that seecamps do prefer some ammo over others, although, the newer productions are less impacted by various ammos. And lastly, .32 is an acceptable compromise over the .380. (Of course, in reality, the .380 is a compromise over .45) It is apparent that at least one owner, some years ago, got the lemon of the century (I wonder if seecamp offered to exchange the entire gun). For DW (de wife) carrying a .32 is better than nothing and since NRA noted that over 90% of confrontations where "resolved" just by drawing a weapon, the probabilty is low it will be needed to actually fire-but, for the record, I won't carry one empty. I will be buying 2 guns, the LCP for me when the Ruger SP101 is too heavy, and the .32 for DW. I have two more questions for this great group of memebers. First, since the seecamp has a preference for one, or several, kinds of ammo, is there some assurances the ammo manufacturer won't change the design/process of the ammo which will have a negative impact on the seecamp dependability? and secondly, I'm hearing about the California version which looks like a safety "button" to keep the trigger from being pulled back. If you had a choice, would you buy the California (whacky liberal) version or not since it would be another "step" after drawing the weapon to fire? Big, big thanks to all those who responed to my earlier question. What a great site!!