Feel free to fly with less safety protocols. I'll pass. Flying is not to be taken lightly. Behavior up there has to be severely restricted to make sure risk is mitigated as close to zero as possible. We could have an airline for folks that think risk analysis is for sissies,Same as I feel comfortable them carrying around me everywhere else. People carry around me all day everyday. Not an issue I worry about.
I've shot and qualified at military ranges and my Dad at LE ranges for decades - over 90% qualification. Are they the best shooters and or firearms experts? No, not most. But LE and Mil teach to get people to qualify. Not be experts or marksmen. You should know something about what you are talking about and you don't.You haven't been to a LE or Mil range I take it. Most can't qualify by shooting the side of a barn, from the inside of said barn.
Being Mil or LE doesn't mean anything.
I've shot and qualified at military ranges and my Dad at LE ranges for decades - over 90% qualification. Are they the best shooters and or firearms experts? No, not most. But LE and Mil teach to get people to qualify. Not be experts or marksmen. You should know something about what you are talking about and you don't.
Feel free to fly with less safety protocols. I'll pass. Flying is not to be taken lightly. Behavior up there has to be severely restricted to make sure risk is mitigated as close to zero as possible. We could have an airline for folks that think risk analysis is for sissies,
As I understand it, that’s not possible because laws have been passed to remove that freedom.Feel free to fly with less safety protocols. I'll pass. Flying is not to be taken lightly. Behavior up there has to be severely restricted to make sure risk is mitigated as close to zero as possible. We could have an airline for folks that think risk analysis is for sissies,
It doesn't mean anything? It means they know one specific rifle or possibly a handful of rifles and handguns. Probably none of them single action, because their management knows they can't be trusted with it.You haven't been to a LE or Mil range I take it. Most can't qualify by shooting the side of a barn, from the inside of said barn.
Being Mil or LE doesn't mean anything.
I think you have my thoughts on these subjects with quite a bit of assumption on your part.I'm former Mil and LE. I do know what I'm talking about.
A 92G or 68C isn't someone Uncle Sam spends time and money getting to handle a service rifle or pistol. They barely adequately qual once in a 24 monyh period and go back to cooking or go back to MEDCOM.
With LE, the FL qual course is 40 rounds at between 1 to 15 yards with one mandatory reload. It is ridiculously easy and people still fail it!
Again, prior service is not a prerequisite for firearms handling. I know plenty of private citizens who never wore the badge or served in the armed forces that are far better at handling firearms than those trained by Uncle Sam.
Your argument is that only Military or LE should handle firearms in certain environments like aircraft or crowded spaces because of their "training." I say you're mistaken on that. Here's why:
Former librarian, 73, accidentally killed when Florida police officer uses live ammo in community exercise
PUNTA GORDA, Fla. - A police "shoot/don't shoot" demonstration in Florida went shockingly awry when an officer shot and killed a 73-year-old former librarian with what police said was real ammunition…www.jacksonville.com
Surveillance video shows deadly shooting of special police officer during training session in DC
New video obtained by FOX 5 shows the moment a retired-D.C. Lieutenant shot and killed 25-year-old Maurica Manyan during a police training at Anacostia Library last year.www.fox5dc.com
Don’t rush to judge the Navy’s recent firearm mishap, the Corps has had 54 negligent discharges since 2013
The Corps' negligent discharges have cost more than 1,700 work days and millions of dollars.www.marinecorpstimes.com
Pittsburgh police officer on paid leave after accidental discharge, positive drug test
11 Investigates has learned that a Pittsburgh police officer who worked at Zone 3 in Allentown could lose his job after an accidental discharge in a police cruiser.www.wpxi.com
Sailor accidentally shot in the leg at Naval Station Norfolk
A sailor is in stable condition after suffering an “accidental discharge to the right leg” from a military firearm on Tuesday morning at Naval Station Norfolk, authorities say.www.navytimes.com
Dallas police employee shot in arm after accidental discharge in property room
The employee was processing evidence when the shooting occurred. They were hospitalized with injuries that weren’t considered life threatening, police said.www.dallasnews.com
Another Texas soldier on border dies in accidental shooting
He's the sixth soldier linked to the mission to die since October.www.armytimes.com
Police: ‘Accidental discharge’ of officer’s gun prompted huge emergency response at St. John’s Prep
Local and state police descended upon the school and immediately ordered students and staff to shelter in place.www.boston25news.com
Cop accidentally fired gun near bystanders during training in downtown Burlington - VTDigger
Staff from Outdoor Gear Exchange were close by when a police officer from Pennsylvania accidentally fired a live round from his weapon during a SWAT training at the former L.L. Bean building on Cherry Street.vtdigger.org
La Vergne police officer placed on leave after weapon discharges; TBI investigating
An investigation is underway surrounding an accidental weapon discharge made by a La Vergne police officer.www.wkrn.com
Minnesota police said Daunte Wright's death was the result of an 'accidental discharge.' This happens far more often than you might think.
The officer who shot Daunte Wright meant to deploy her Taser at him, not her gun, police said. Accidental shootings and deaths like these are not new.www.businessinsider.com
Video shows Danvers police officer accidentally firing gun in St. John's Prep shooting scare
New video released Wednesday shows a Danvers police officer accidentally firing a gun while responding to a hoax shooting scare at St. John's Prep on May 22.www.cbsnews.com
Marine Harrier mechanic killed while cleaning his weapon
The Corps has had nearly 54 negligent discharges over the last five years.www.marinecorpstimes.com
Plenty of cops and service members have negligent discharges and sometimes, they kill themselves or others. But they're "trained."
And the matter of the fact is this.
Inalienable rights that are enumerated in the Constitution are not trumped by feelings or by someone's profession.
The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
The people have the right to carry arms.
Simple as that. Even if I didn't like it, it is their right to do so. Dame goes for their other rights like freedom of speech.
Again, if a private company wants to bar someone from carrying on their plane or bus. That's their prerogative. American Airlines and Greyhound can do that. But the government should have no say in the matter.
Then you have not out much though into either the tactics or the risks.Same as I feel comfortable them carrying around me everywhere else. People carry around me all day everyday. Not an issue I worry about.
Inalienable civil rights trump "tactics or the risks." People have the right to carry, simple as that. I live in a state of 22 million people where an estimated 7 to 10 million of them own and carry firearms. I'm not in any great worry or fear. I'd rather live in a free society with certain inherent risks than in a controlled society with no freedom and no safety.Then you have not out much though into either the tactics or the risks.
I agree.... if American Airlines, Brightline, or Greyhound wants to create a policy that does such. That's their prerogative as a private business. Government should have no say. If it is public funded transportation like the county bus line. No bans should exist.The very last thing I want to do in the world is poke this Tar Baby but I am going to throw this out, I think the rights of the property owner to permit or prohibit firearms on their plane, train, bus, Uber, or Subway should be absolute.
Except on or in property owned by those who do not allow it. That is fundamental.Inalienable civil rights trump "tactics or the risks." People have the right to carry, simple as that
If you look at my first post in this thread, I've said private businesses can do what they want. The government cannot.Except on or in property owned by those who do not allow it. That is fundamental.
I don't know why this particular incident happened. I always thought a holster with a padlock through the trigger guard was asking for trouble.
FFDOs are issued HK USP40 Compact LEM.Let me stir it up some: It happened because that gun had the 'perfect' never fail Glock idea of 'glockizing that trigger with it's safety..............!
We will try this again with better syntaxes. Hopefully this will give a clearer message. That is My Prayer.
A profound question, Double Naught. We need deep thinkers to inveigle into the discussion. Einstein, Fermi and Teller have passed away.. Hopefully, new brilliant thinkers can succeed them.Cool, and now the critical question since this again seems to just be largely resorting to a 2A issue, what is the significance of public transportation to the query? Is there a place with Constitutional carry that doesn't allow carry on busses and trains by law.
In other words, what is the actual issue you wish to be discussing? Do they not allow that where you are?
Yes.Is there a place with Constitutional carry that doesn't allow carry on busses and trains by law.