Suppressed 1911 for Home Defense?

[citizenconn]

My main home defense firearms are suppressed .300 Blk AR pistols. But I was thinking of adding a suppressed 1911 in .45 ACP to the mix. Anyone here running this setup or a different flavor .45 ACP? I would appreciate your thoughts as well as recommendation on where to get a threaded barrel and the best choice of suppressor. No kids in the house, BTW. Just 6 cats.
citizenconn

 

[N555]

Threaded 45acp barrels are back in stock everywhere.
I got mine a long time ago when you could buy them on ebay.
I got the osprey 45 k, it's shorter than the normal osprey 45acp silencer. It's not super quiet but it works.

 

[JTQ]

...adding a suppressed 1911 in .45 ACP to the mix.

I would appreciate your thoughts as well as recommendation on where to get a threaded barrel and the best choice of suppressor.

A suppressed 1911 would probably work fine.

If you have a 1911, but it currently doesn't have a threaded barrel, and are looking to add a threaded barrel, realize the 1911 is not a Glock. Sure, you may buy a threaded barrel and it will drop right in and work. Chances that you'd need a professional gunsmith to fit the barrel to your current gun are significantly better.

It is usually simpler to just buy a 1911 that already has a threaded barrel, or any other gun that already has a threaded barrel, rather than trying to round up an aftermarket barrel and getting it to work in a gun you already have.

 

[Jim Watson]

I am not in the Silencer Culture, but I was impressed by a HK USP .45 with the suppressor that is flat sided and offset so you don't have to have funky tall sights, I forget the brand.

I think a 1911 might be more of a project to get full reliability out of with the added mass on the muzzle.

 

[citizenconn]

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I think a 1911 might be more of a project to get full reliability out of with the added mass on the muzzle.

I do have several Glocks in 45 ACP, so it might be easier to choose one of those as a host. Though I am always looking for a reason to get another firearm.

 

[N555]

I am not in the Silencer Culture, but I was impressed by a HK USP .45 with the suppressor that is flat sided and offset so you don't have to have funky tall sights, I forget the brand.

I think a 1911 might be more of a project to get full reliability out of with the added mass on the muzzle.

That's probably the silencerCo osprey.
A proper 1911 silencer will have a recoil booster. Mine will cycle ridiculous light 45acp loads with the silencer no problem.

 

[Riomouse911]

If your set up is A) reliable and B) not unwieldy, you will be well served with a suppressed 1911.

Stay safe.

 

[Nuclear]

I have experience with the 1911/Osprey setup. Works great, the sights almost completely clear the top of the silencer, not really a problem with a 6 o’clock hold. Just as accurate with the silencer as without.

The “drop in” threaded barrel sold by the 1911’s manufacturer hand cycled fine, but locked up tight when I fired a few rounds through it. I had to get a gunsmith get it open and fit it properly.

Really quiet outside, comfortable to shoot without ear pro. Probably louder inside a structure, never tried it indoors without hearing protection. Most 45ACP is subsonic, unless you go light weight, +P or both.

 

[JohnKSa]

You need to really test it when you're done to make sure you have the reliability you expect.

 

[FL-NC]

If I was going to do this, I would suppress some type of smaller Glock in 45 ACP to keep the overall length down. Also for reliability and the light mount.

 

[Pudge]

You need to really test it when you're done to make sure you have the reliability you expect.

While absolutely correct, I cannot imagine getting a suppressor and not doing extensive "testing".

 

[AlexanderA]

Using a suppressed firearm for home defense has the same drawback as using a machine gun for home defense: anything NFA is not going to look good to a jury. (They're going to think it's overkill.) On the bright side, losing the weapon to the police, as evidence, will not be as expensive for a silencer as opposed to a machine gun.

Are you really that concerned about your hearing in that kind of in extremis situation?

 

[citizenconn]

Are you really that concerned about your hearing in that kind of in extremis situation?

I actually have a set of powered hearing protection right next to several of my home defense weapons. If I have the time to put them on, great. If not, oh well.

My concern is as much for my cats' hearing as mine. Especially considering their hearing is so much more sensitive than humans.

 

[JohnKSa]

My concern is as much for my cats' hearing as mine. Especially considering their hearing is so much more sensitive than humans.

Hopefully your attackers' will be using suppressed weapons as well, for your cats' hearing sake.

While absolutely correct, I cannot imagine getting a suppressor and not doing extensive "testing".

Ammunition is expensive and can be hard to find. Someone whose experience with suppressors is on fixed barrel firearms may not understand how much a suppressor can affect function on a floating/tilting barrel design. And some people just aren't that interested in testing. There was an incident some years ago where a shop owner did a "spring tune-up" on his SD revolver and either didn't test it at all or only tested it in single action. When his shop was robbed, he fired his revolver in double-action and found that the hammer spring was too weak to get reliable ignition in double action. That's pretty much the definition of exciting right there.

 

[Sovblocgunfan]

I do have several Glocks in 45 ACP, so it might be easier to choose one of those as a host. Though I am always looking for a reason to get another firearm.

how about an AR pistol in .45 ACP? Clearly you already know the platform, so there wouldn’t be any new controls or anything to learn/remember when something goes bump in the night.

 

[herrwalther]

One of the biggest lies in the gun world is the notion of drop in 1911 parts. Very few just drop in without fitting. Especially things like threaded barrels. So unless you are good friends with a gun smith that can do the fitting for you, you are better off buying a 1911 fitted with a TB at the factory.

As far as calibers go, 45ACP is one of the better ones to suppress. Most 230gr are naturally subsonic. So any 45ACP handgun with a threaded barrel would be a good choice for this project.

 

[JTQ]

One of the biggest lies in the gun world is the notion of drop in 1911 parts.

I'm not sure it is a "lie" as nearly everybody that knows anything about a 1911 will agree with...

Very few just drop in without fitting.

I think it is probably more likely described as a misunderstanding by Glock or AR owners regarding 1911's.

 

[MachIVshooter]

I keep a Remington RP45 with my 5.5" Phoenix K on the nightstand, wife has her Iver Johnson Hawk 1911 with our 7" Phoenix XLV on it.

 

[Pew-Pew]

I actually have a set of powered hearing protection right next to several of my home defense weapons. If I have the time to put them on, great. If not, oh well.

My concern is as much for my cats' hearing as mine. Especially considering their hearing is so much more sensitive than humans.

Is your house setup like a John Wick house? lol

 

[Zygodactyl]

Personally, I would rather the intruder be blinded by the flash and deafened by the report. To each their own. Ditto on checking for reliability when you hang something on the end of a 1911.

 

[MachIVshooter]

Personally, I would rather the intruder be blinded by the flash and deafened by the report. To each their own.

One of the sillier notions I've seen posted here. Are you expecting those same things to not happen to you, even though you'll almost certainly be closer to the muzzle and thus experience them with greater intensity?

 

[Odd Job]

I agree with MachIV. In a home defense scenario, I would like to retain as much of my perception as possible, whilst giving away as little about my position, as possible.

 

[CaptHank]

When I decided to get into silencers, I chose a H&K USP45 as the host. I was lucky on the threaded barrel, no problems encountered. Now, the problem that I see, is the length. The Osprey really adds to it.

 

[GBExpat]

... I would appreciate your thoughts ...

I would not touch off a .300BLK pistol inside my house. No way. Not a chance. Uh Uh. Not gonna happen.

I keep a set of Peltor Tactical 6S electronic ear muffs on my bedside table for use if my alarm system triggers after I go to bed. I have a second pair that I use when shooting out back or over on the farm. Bought the pair together 15-20 years ago.

The Peltors not only mitigate the sound pulse but give me "super hearing".

Also, the only firearms that I will use inside my house are low velocity/pressure; e.g., .45acp, 380acp, etc.

That said ...

... I would MUCH prefer to setup one of my 1911s (or my G30S) as a suppressed overnight HD piece. That would be sweet. ... BUT ...

I have not (yet) been able to talk myself into spending so much money such a limited use item for a purpose that I already have covered, even if it is a slightly more cumbersome solution.

 

[kidneyboy]

But I was thinking of adding a suppressed 1911 in .45 ACP to the mix.

I skipped over the 1911 idea for most of the reasons already mentioned and picked up a FNX 45 Tactical. It comes suppressor ready and has 15 round magazines. Haven't picked a suppressor yet but will have that sorted out before the end of summer.


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