Tactics for Zombies, Goblins, Ghouls, Vampires and Werewolves

[ClickClickD'oh]

Well, this is certainly a question in need of extreame tactical planning to incorporate the inherant paradigm shifts in such a dynamic engagement.

Certainly, I would be tempted to use a full tactical M4, complete with a railed fore-end sporting all the necessary attachments including; green laser, surefire light, vert grip, an LLM-01, and mess kit. Can't get by without some tripple mag couplers and a four position stock complete with battery compartment to hold spares for all my gear. Better have a hollow pistol grip... and a bipod too. Slap an ACOG on to, and an M203 under the barrel and we are good to go for our primary arm. Put a three point sling on there while we are at it.

Feeding it could be complicated. I think maybe a hollow silver bullet filled with holy water would do best. Better engrave crucafixes on them and have them blessed by the Pope just to be safe. Seven or eight Beta-C mags should do.

Now for a sidearm. Nothing but 1911s will do. One on each thigh, one on each hip, one under each shoulder and one SOB. Seven 1911s should just barely be enough. On the plus side, the .45 bullet, in addition to being naturally superior to the 9mm, will hold more holy water... thus being a more effective weapon against the unholy. If I did my maths right, I can fit about fifteen Glock style double mag pouches on my belt. Each can fit two 1911 mags per slot giving me a superior thirty two rounds per pouch instead of a weak thrity.

For close combat I will carry a pair of Katanas on my back, crossed of course. I need to find a pair of Hitori Hanzo swords forged of pure silver... and blessed by the Pope of course. I figure I can find those on the Home Shopping Network pretty easily.

Gear and clothing. Combat boots and fatigues of course. Black, of course. Other than that, nothing. All that extra junk people wears just slows them down. Slow is not good against the undead. I have to be able to perform standing back flips to the second floor from the ground or I'm in trouble.

Wait. On second thought, the AR platform might jam. I need something piston driven. The HK 416 is the only option here.

I'll have my gear assemlbed and ready for patrols by the time the sun sets.

 

[Owens]

What better to "clean up" the ghouls than...


Ready?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagerotecta-shotgun-p1030163.jpg



Hey... come on... SOMEONE had to mention a streetsweeper!

 

[hrgrisso]

Real World Strategies for Supernatural Baddies

In fighting/dealing with the many minions of the undead we must first (as always) define the mission. I’m hearing a bunch of people talk about hiding – throwing candy- blankets and cuddlies while the world goes to pot!

This is not the way of the gun (bonus points for bad movie title usage)(double bonus points for self awarding bonus points), as those prepared we should seek out and deal full with the evil, twisted and warped, while leaving alone those just weird (guys as much as I’d like my brother in law is off limits!).

Tools:

For starters, I think the perfect undead (in all it’s variations) all around kit should include the following; AR-15 Carbine light barrel with any fast acquisition sight. While a light may or may not be warranted 1 is sufficient, but it should be bright as H$LL since your fighting H&LL. This should go without saying. Second each hunter should also carry double pistols, why? 4 reasons: 1 Hollywood tells us we should and they wouldn’t lie to us. 2: We have two hands… 3: it looks cool. 4: we should always have a backup. My personal choice is the Sig P226 Elite in 9mm w/ 20rd mags filled with JHP’s dipped that the bullet (not the whole thing) was soaked in holy water. No need to attach any crazy things to the bullets. I would also recommend a light on each gun and a laser sight of some kind for accurate head shots quickly. Lastly everyone should have a blade or melee tool of some kind. I prefer a hawk and kukri. One for each hand.

One alternate weapon that cannot be argued with is a large scale flame tool. I have a propane “torch” that runs off a short hose attached to a large propane tank from when burning weeds was not illegal (evil weed lobby!). On full blast you can get a ten foot flame. This will cook nicely any rotten meat needing to be cooked that comes your way!

Bullet choice, I’m fully in favor of small fast and light dipped in holy water. Giving you a larger capacity. Unless those nasty “ragers” from 28 days later that just need massive damage inflicted. In which case bigger is better. A fast action shotgun with steel shot works out well!

Tactics:

Zombies be they the shambling rambling hordes from George Romero’s crazed mind are fairly simple prey. Find distance and/or complicated elevation. A tree or a metal fire escape is wonderful for this. Bonus for obtaining a helicopter and a belt fed machine gun. Flamethrowers are also acceptable tools.

Zombies of the hungry British variety or the American mean angry and faster than the Thanksgiving gravy on granddads bowels variety require finesse and speed. Here is where hi capacity AR’s and laser sighted pistols come into their own. Fast magazine swaps work well too!

Goblins

due to their ugly and large nature generally require a large melee tool to squish them. Blunt force trauma. Bullets merely punch holes that heal. I recommend a two pronged approach, much like daring to eat Filibertos Menudo, a big spoon and a napkin. Get a large axe or hammer but have a buddy popping painful holes in him from a distance (note: the person shooting from a distance should be the more careful and better shot of the two assaulting said goblin. Failure to do so may result in multiple unexpected body piercings which are hard to explain).

Ghouls

I recommend one tactic, Ghostbusters packs or running like hell. No more discussion is required. They will lick you to death. Much like my neighbors St. Bernard.

Vampires: the scary grail of horror and terror.

If you’re not prepared I suggest pizza, Sicilian with much garlic. Potatoes don’t work, those bastages need Iron!

To prepare I suggest alternating holy water on your bullets and rubbing garlic against them. Of course this is a temporary fix at best. A shotgun firing dowel rods works great. I hear mention of bows and crossbows frequently. A Hun short bow works great. The English long bow or other compounds not nearly well enough. Reason being that the Irish and English dealt with Banshees, Trolls, Ghosts and Sweeney Todd, vampires were low on their list of priorities to kill. Remember they even needed a freaky deaky Dutch bastage to take care of Dracula (Abraham Van Helsing for the uneducated)!

A short Hun bow should work well if used properly, but like a handgun requires much practice. Another tool that is even rarer but works equally well if used correctly would be a Native American notch bow.

With Vampyres since they can shape shift to bats (we’ll cover the wolf transformation with werewolves) any fast reliable shotgun with flechette rounds works great on those fluttery flying squirrels of the night! Dispatch as usual once no longer airborne.

Were – Anythings: the furry chewing things of the supernatural world.

Usually wolves but can be found on every continent, usually the dominant predator/scavenger species of the region. Exception Africa where instead of were-lions there are were-leopards and hyenas.

Silver is the most famous and most common. This is an easy fix for reloaders as there is a company in Oregon who makes silver bullet heads. For the non reloaders your almost SOL.

The worst part of the big and hairy’s is that they regenerate most everything and fast. So I recommend if no silver bullets or silver weapons to be had, that you give in to the hunter in you, and use calls and bait that were, where you want it! Then blast the loving hair off it! Into tiny bits if you can and then burn the bits.

There are many other strategies but few that could really count as stategy as opposed to someone who got very lucky.

All in all, if facing evil this Halloween. Pray for munchkins!

 

[sm]

I still think a Big Purple Dino singing will turn most folks away...
including Zombies, Goblins, Ghouls, Vampires and Werewolves...

Oh noooo! Not thaaaaat!



Word is , this will even get a Werewolves hair to become "not Perfect".

 

[CoRoMo]

12ga Riot Gun

 

[Rachen]

The best way to stop zombies and ghouls???

Join the NRA, post Action Alerts on all NRA-ILA bulletins, alert fellow friends and friendly state and local politicians, write letters to state representatives and that will make sure these unearthly creatures would not stand a chance at the elections.

Q-What's the best way to ruin a zombie's day???
A-A powerful Conservative voter turnout at the polls.

 

[cpttango30]

I would get me a full auto Oak Stake launcher with 30 stake clip. Then I would melt down all the wifes silver jewelry in to bars and cast them into HOLLOW bullets and fill them with Murcury then seal them over with lead.

For our flying friends I would make some silver #7 Shot and load some 12 ga nice and hot just a little over max.

I would have a mechette on my back and the stake launcher would be black and have a tactical sling. I would carry my 1911 45 with some of them Murcury filled Silver Super bullets in a tactical holster hanging down by my knee. with 10 mags full for reloads.

Then on the other leg I would carry my ultra cool purple argon ruby laser Tactical folding phase induced Mini-rifle in my left hand cargo pocket. This rifle would also have the optional Mini-Thermo-Nuclar reactor backpack power supply so I do not run low on power. Under the main barrel would be the Zombie stompin 8.5 ga never ending semi-auto shotgun. (Never ending because it never rund out of ammo like the movie guns).

 

[GEM]

One considering is the mass attack vs. single monsters.

Mass attacks are usually zombies. Then I recommend a AR type gun with a quality round and head shots. Read World War Z for tips. Silver rounds for the gun with two linked 30 rounders.

For individual monsters, I recommend a semiauto shotgun with the following round:

12 gauge slug made out of silver with a hollowed center that is filled with a sharp wood plug. Over the end of the tip of the wood is a wax and garlic paste, add some neurotoxins also. Have all the round blessed at a Shrine to St. Hubert (I think he is the Saint of gunsmiths and needs to bless werewolf bullets).

Sidearm - Some hi cap 45 ACP with silver hollowpoints filled with evil garlic and neurotoxin.

If availabe a Surefire with both visible light and UV projection (if the later screws up vampires).

Kelvar vest with silver crosses embroided into it like chain mail. Neck shield with similar crosses. Of course, faced with Jewish or Hindu Vamps, that will bite.

If it comes to a knife fight or hand to hand, well, then I just will get bit and become a vampire and chase beautiful victims in the sequel.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

Clearly .22LR is the ultimate zombie caliber. It is plentiful and easily available. You can carry the kind of ammo load you need to deal with zombie hordes. The light recoil facilitates the head shots you'll need to make to be effective. The low heat allows you to keep a high sustained rate of fire on the zombie hordes as well.

About the only real issue is that nobody makes the appropriate Tactical Zombie Slaying .22LR platform... I guess a suppressed Ruger 10/22 with 50rd mags would be a good start though.

 

[zxcvbob]

About the only real issue is that nobody makes the appropriate Tactical Zombie Slaying .22LR platform

Oh, but there was one. The "American 180": http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg62-e.htm

HTH
Bob

 

[2TransAms]

Wow,Hrgrisso,you've done your homework,but I must disagree on one point:

On full blast you can get a ten foot flame. This will cook nicely any rotten meat needing to be cooked that comes your way!

The undead generally can't be burned to death,or at least not quickly. So when you blast them with the Napalm Super Soaker they will be two-legged tiki torches that set fire to anything they bump into,including you. Very fast tiki torches,depending on what type of monster you're up against. Zombies will shamble around aimlessly,but a werewolf can be a 60+ mph fireball of doom.

 

[arthurcw]

Zombies will shamble around aimlessly,but a werewolf can be a 60+ mph fireball of doom.

Oh that's got to be a new sig line!

 

[doc jake]

Ok I go with Pax on this one, when I was a kid a thick blanket work in keeping me safe, if I couldn’t see the monster it didn’t exist. Now if we take this to its logical conclusion, then throw the blanket over the monsters head, and it will think it doesn’t exist causing it to have a nervous breakdown and inevitably commit suicide.

 

[hrgrisso]

Ok

Bart the only disagreement I have with your 22lr idea is that .22's are so D@NG hard to reload the mags! grrr little shells falling all over the place!

As to the 60mph werewolf fireball of death that is a valid (and scarier than 60 mall ninja's chasing a fat mall cop chomping crispy cremes while yelling at people double parked) point. Double scary since most were things will heal almost as fast as they'll burn. hmmm... maybe burn and drive?

 

[AndyC]

I read Correia's first chapter, so I'd just hold him in front of me while I drink beer

 

[2TransAms]

A note on zombies also:

It has been established that when Hell is full,the dead will walk the earth and head straight for the mall,presumably for Dip'n Dots. Now it is every High-Roader's secret fantasy to have an open season on unlimited and minimally challenging bulls-eyes,but if you want some quality trigger time I would actually go to Target. The irony is obvious.

 

[Geronimo45]

American 180 is a teriffic primary. Good for anti-werewolf, zombie, and goblin duties. Napalm or silly string works pretty well for ghouls. With a 200+ round drum, you can take out quite a herd of zombies before reloading.

For other creatures: I prefer the Lee-Enfield No. 4 Mk1. Load a blank and shoot a dalrod at your vampires, or load a blank and fire off one of the rifle grenades they make for it - another good anti-zombie tool, often a teriffic weapon for dealing with werewolves.

For handgun, a Model 10 with silver HP rounds stuffed with garlic. Silver bullets cause a nasty chemical reaction in your werewolves that burns the innerds like a dutch oven. The garlic can work to drive the vampires back, hopefully long enough to dalrod 'em. A silver bayonet is highly recommended for the Lee-Enfield. A set of crimson-trace lasergrips would be on the Model 10, as some of the undead will chase the little red dot.

Stock up on stripper clips and a dozen 275-rd drums for the American 180. Blanks and HP rounds in .303, fill the HP with garlic or silver, your choice. Avoid ginseng, as this will only make your enemies smarter. Certain old .303 FMJ rounds have a tad of wood, which makes them good anti-vampire tools.

 

[skidooman]

I've only had one attack so far, pirate, kinda slow...

 

[massad ayoob]

With zombies, it's all about shot placement.

No, not brain shots. That's MOVIE zombies.

For the REAL zombies, the ones we face every day, you need a shot that either takes out their iPod or blows off their BlueTooth.

Seems to render 'em helpless whenever either one malfunctions.

 

[taliv]

heh

Zombies will shamble around aimlessly,but a werewolf can be a 60+ mph fireball of doom.

maybe, if you set it on fire and launch it from a catapult

 

[cpttango30]

We could always throw Harry Potter at them. Let him use some curses at them.

 

[Eyesac]

Join the NRA, post Action Alerts on all NRA-ILA bulletins, alert fellow friends and friendly state and local politicians, write letters to state representatives and that will make sure these unearthly creatures would not stand a chance at the elections.

Q-What's the best way to ruin a zombie's day???
A-A powerful Conservative voter turnout at the polls

Hahaha!

Well I think any auto shotty loaded w/ hollow point Snickers will do. I personally don't use Twiks because everyone knows that Twiks hates me, and I suck...

 

[Gunnerpalace]

If Monster Hunting was my job, I would pack a Desert Eagle .50 AE with silver rounds, and "Monster Busters" (white oak,silver,holy water,forged iron), A M4 with silver rounds (STANAG and C-mag clips), under-slung M-203 with (it is a constant) silver shells,WP,ect, 2 kukuri's (silver with gold inlay,supposedly good against zombies),SPAS-15 (silver loads,slugs,and Busters),WP,silver grenades,and for a bit of range a AI S550 capable of shooting .50,tranqulizers,and for real hairy situations radioactive isotope rounds. For "worst case about to be overrun" a modified Colt 1903 pocket able to shoot 1 nuclear round capable of taking out a 2sq mile area.

Tactically I would charge em' head on or if I had back-up charge while the others give out suppressive fire.

If I make a Youtube Video I'll let you know.

 

[Albatross]

I thought the solutions to these problems was standardized a long time ago...

plasma rifle in the 40watt range.

 

[Tokugawa]

The solution to this sort of outbreak was known many years ago by our forefathers. Strip off the clothes, paint ones body with blue dye , eat some funny looking mushrooms, pick up the battle hatchet (and a spare mace or something) and go slice and dice. Sort of a Conan on crank. Miamoto Mushashi on meth. You have seen these people- they are out there. monday morning is the best time to spot them, weaving in and out of traffic on the beltway at crazy speed, three piece suit and eyes bugging out, spittle flying as they try to yell into the cell and slurp a grande triple mocha at the same time. These are our saviors when the monsters come calling.