Taurus PT1911, lock removal

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The Taurus security system can be removed from the hammer by pounding out a small pin. The whole assembly drops right out of the hammer. The ambi-saftey can be easily modified and cut off. Just in case anyone was wondering.

The pin for the lock is shown in the exploaded diagram in the back of your owners manual. Its recessed on one side and looks grinded flush on the other. I drilled a 1/4" hole in a piece of wood, aligned the pin over it and pounded it out.
 
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there's been reports of it locking the hammer during use. people were putting loctite on it, i just removed it all together, although its never failed on me personally.
 
I've heard of locks on lightweight revolvers engaging under recoil, but not from this model. There's a considerable number of people who are very adamant about not having the locks. I personally don't like them. When my guns are not directly under my control, they're locked up in the safe. So the locks are absolutely useless to me from the gun safety standpoint.
 
I have yet to hear ONE report from an actual owner of a PT1911 that it locks while firing.. There is no reason to remove it or change the hammer..If you don't think it needs to be there then just don't use it.
 
If you don't think it needs to be there then just don't use it.
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That's a deal, partner. ;)

Other than the lock and the passive fireing pin block, I like the gun a lot, actually.
 
Wow you found one internet report of it. Thats it Im selling mine and never buying another Taurus as long as I live :banghead:
 
I have yet to hear ONE report from an actual owner of a PT1911 that it locks while firing.. There is no reason to remove it or change the hammer..If you don't think it needs to be there then just don't use it.
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Wow you found one internet report of it. Thats it Im selling mine and never buying another Taurus as long as I live
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So one report was good enough in your previous post, but now that you've been given a link to one report, it's not enough? Changing the requirements as you go won't earn you respect around here.

People dislike locks for a variety of reasons; be they political, personal, historical, or functional reasons. People also like locks for a myriad of contrasting reasons. If people want to remove locks from their guns that's fine. If other people want to keep or add locks to their guns that's also fine. I think THR is a big enough place for both views.
 
Where in my first post did I say one report would be enough? I said I have yet to hear of even one out of all the threads and internet reports about the PT1911. So you happen to find one I’m happy for you. Its not going to change the opinion I have on the pistol I own. One or even ten internet forum posts about it does not change my opinion that it doesn’t need to be removed. Someone asked if there was a known problem with the lock so I answered his question. I did not want him to think the answer someone else gave about there being "reports" (notice reports is plural meaning more then one) of it locking while firing with out any other proof to be his only source of information.
 
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ugaarguy is not trying to pick a fight.

You stated you hadn't seen "one" report.

He found one and presented a link.

You insist this won't change your opinion.

He's not attacking you. He's not trying to change your opinion.
I think THR is a big enough place for both views.
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And so it is.

Go in peace.

I can understand both the "no locks" and the "no modifications to factory configuration" viewpoints.

I won't argue either way. I WILL, however, keep an eye out for lock failures or misbehaviors, since I own a couple of Taurus pistols.

More information is always a good thing.
 
here's the PT1911 with the ambi cut off, the lock removed, and I added some stainless flathead grip screws. Its actually starting to look like a 1911 now! I really want to get the slide hardchromed. get rid of those golden billboards.

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MPa, I'm neither attacking you nor your choice of pistol. I was simply pointing out that when jkomp replied with a report you over reacted. No one said you should sell your Taurus except you. Jkomp isn't selling his. He's simply modifying it to suit his tastes and sharing his progress on the project with us. No one is trying to force anything on you.

In his original post jkomp simply offred information on how to remove the lock so those who wish may do so - without the expense of buying a new hammer and having a gunsmith fit it. He didn't say everyone should do it, he didn't even say he recommened it. In fact he said "Just in case anyone was wondering." There's no forcing of an opinion on anyone there.

Like I said in my previous post; I understand the views both for and against integral locks, and many of the reasons behind each view.

Again, nothing personal, just pointing out a few things in the thread for everyone to consider.
 
I'm just an innocent bystander here but reading these posts it seems to me that Mpanova is not the one here over reacting.

All he originally said was that he had not heard one report. So now he has seen one report. he never said one report would change anything. That is somebody else putting words in his mouth.

but hey what the hell do i know.
 
has anyone ever sent out for hardchroming? do I need to strip it myself? whats some good places?
 
"MPa, I'm neither attacking you nor your choice of pistol. I was simply pointing out that when jkomp replied with a report you over reacted. No one said you should sell your Taurus except you. Jkomp isn't selling his. He's simply modifying it to suit his tastes and sharing his progress on the project with us. No one is trying to force anything on you."


Hes not overreacting.

You gave one example of someone having their safety interfere, from an internet post with no validity. Whether or not its true, it has no support. It wouldn't be smart to make any kind of judgement at all, or form any opinion.
 
"A little learning is a dangerous thing, drink deep, or drink not at all at the pyerian spring"

May not be exact and may be misspelled. :rolleyes:

Lets keep an open mind shall we. Except on locks, a pox on locks. :D
 
well, my logic of thinking is that all my guns are tools. they will prob never see the day of being used as a defensive tool, but if they did, and if that lock failed, it would be the most useless tool I own.

so many parts of life have become overcomplicated, my guns will not be one of them. do the police and military have key locks on thier guns? why not? is your gun a range toy or a defensive tool? what was its original purpose?
 
The original purpose was for those who have kids or want to lock there pistol so no one can use it. With out having to buy a trigger lock or one of those steal cable things you put down the pipe and lock with a pad lock. As long as you have the key you can lock the pistol at anytime and leave it anywhere and it is useless to who ever does not have the key.
 
putting internal locks on guns is like putting child saftey tops on beer... it would only piss people off. get a "seperate" trigger lock. i dont see stores using these internal locks instead of trigger locks? anyone with a taurus key can lock/unlock your gun...

these internal locks are just a cheaper way of manufacturers to sell guns. they dont have to include a seperate contracted masterlock.
 
Its not for the general public to not be able to use it, its for those in your home. I don't use it on any of my Taurus pistols because its just me and my wife in the house and we both no better. Oh and my fat lazy 30lb good for nothing except eating and sleeping cat :D
 
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