Tell me about the 30-30 cartridge.

[tark]

Good old Wally, one of only two men to have survived the full bite of the dreaded Gaboon Viper.

The book by Capstick about Wally DOES mention the 30-30 lion hunting by the Latter. He regularly shot elephants with a 318 Rigby, with good success, so he must have been an incredible shot. I don' remember him ever using anything but a 375 H&H on buffalo.

John Hunter, when he first got to Africa, shot hundreds of lions with a 275 rigby AKA a 7X57 Mauser. But I am getting off topic.

I guess a 30-30 will kill just about any soft skinned game, anywhere, with a good bullet placement. If you read one hundred year old gun ads the thirty thirty was considered more than adequate for anything in North America. And a 35 Remington....why that was the Hammer of THOR!!!

Nowdays, both rounds are considered deer cartridges only. I don't think either has lost any power over the years.

I think the answer lies somewhere in between. But I also think I would not hunt dangerous game with one.

 

[R.W.Dale]

I must be insane because i just finished not only weight sorting but even NECK TURNING a batch of federal 30-30 cases in anticipation of getting my new MGM 30-30 encore barrel in.

Oh but I'm just a blind 30-30 hater

 

[Nom de Forum]

I must be insane because i just finished not only weight sorting but even NECK TURNING a batch of federal 30-30 cases in anticipation of getting my new MGM 30-30 encore barrel in.

Oh but I'm just a blind 30-30 hater

Could you perhaps be in a Love-Hate Relationship with the .30-30?

 

[R.W.Dale]

Could you perhaps be in a Love-Hate Relationship with the .30-30?

Naw. I just don't have to dalliance in ballistic fantasies to enjoy the cartridge.


It's "disadvantages" low pressure rating, long tapered shoulder and neck, modest case capacity as well as being rimmed can all be advantages depending on what you want out of a 30 caliber rifle.

 

[Nom de Forum]

Naw. I just don't have to dalliance in ballistic fantasies to enjoy the cartridge.


It's "disadvantages" low pressure rating, long tapered shoulder and neck, modest case capacity as well as being rimmed can all be advantages depending on what you want out of a 30 caliber rifle.

I think you are in denial of your true feelings. You obviously have a crush on a girl who you would normally describe as "Not my type". It's OK R.W., many people have those awkward affairs, even me. I once had a fling with a S&W 340, I'm a mostly semiauto man, and no matter how affectionately I treated her she was abusive.

 

[R.W.Dale]

Like I said.

Fantasies.


It's a niche cartridge that fills it's niche very very well at being "enough" rifle for a lot of situations hunters and shooters may find themselves in.

It's also extremely well suited to cast bullets for those interested in such things

 

[saturno_v]

It's a niche cartridge t

A "niche" cartridge that is one of the top centerfire cartridge sellers constantly year after year ASAIK...

 

[R.W.Dale]

A "niche" cartridge that is one of the top centerfire cartridge sellers constantly year after year ASAIK...

You just like to argue over nothing to run your post count up don't you?


Is a varmint cartridge a niche?

How about long range rifle target competition? Is that a niche?

How about how about short to medium range deer round? I guess that's not one?


Lastly you like to promote "top centerfire" who compiles this data which you base this assertion on? What are the sales figures? How recent were these numbers compiled?

FACTS

Come on Saturno let's see some. Sources OTHER THAN that Mr. hawks pontificating

 

[back40]

"Enough rifle for a lot of situations hunters and shooters may find themselves in" sure sounds like a general purpose round to me. Your own words RW.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

This thread took a very sharp turn towards the ridiculous about 3 pages ago. I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading here!

 

[R.W.Dale]

"Enough rifle for a lot of situations hunters and shooters may find themselves in" sure sounds like a general purpose round to me. Your own words RW.

Did I post anywhere in this thread saying it wasn't?

No




I've been fully aware of that without engaging in outright hyperbole as to how a gummy bullet adds range, is the top selling cartridge ever, is a good lion gun and is the exact same thing as a 16" 308

30-30 is none of THOSE things. It is
"Enough rifle for a lot of situations hunters and shooters may find themselves in" no more and no less.

Anything beyond that is ballistic fiction

 

[Robert]

Well, that went nowhere good. Too much whining and bickering to let it go.