Texas Statutes/ >1 gun

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Ok, So I can't seem to find where in the Texas statute the issue of carrying more than one gun is addressed. The topic came up in conversation the other day and no one seemed to know the answer. Apparently there are states where you cannot carry more than one gun but I don't remember reading onthis issue in the Tx Statutes book and it wasn't addressed in my concealed carry class.

anyone? anyone?
 
I can't quote you chapter and verse, but my concealed instructor said we could carry as many as we could conceal.
 
There is an FAQ on the Texas DPS website and this is one of the questions. The answer basically says " the statutes do not seem to place a limit on the number of concealed handguns that may be carried"....or something to that effect.
 
Thanks Jimmie. Thanks T.R.

I guess the due dilligence doer would have looked there. I've always found legal resources on the web rather, um, ambiguous and/or overly cumbersome to get any real info out of. especially for the non-legalese types..

gracias.
 
But do remember that in Texas concealed must stay concealed. Accidental exposure is a criminal offense that at minimum can get your license revoked.

Also remember that in grappling you don't want an attacker getting a firearm. The more firearms you have the harder retention becomes. If you have to be concerned about someone grabbing a gun from your waist on the side, in front, behind, about someone reaching in and grabbing one under a jacket, about someone grabbing your ankle, out of pockets etc. You also may bump into people in lines or in public.
It is easier to keep people away from one area of your body than multiple in a casual manner.
There is pros and cons to backups, and both suite different situations or environments.

It is a great thing you enjoy the freedom to choose the number of firearms you want to carry and wear. Now if you can just get some open carry laws the occasional accidental shirt riding up etc won't be a criminal offense.
 
It's intentionally failing to conceal not accidental

§ 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
 
Zoog,

I, also, can't recite chapter and verse but I don't think accidental exposure is a revocation. I think it states that as long as you go to all reasonable lengths to remain concealed, the accidental "Marilyn moment" won't get your license yanked. Of course, it's probably wise to understand that the interpretation of such laws is just that: interpretation.

But your point is well noted. I'm generally contented to wear just the one.
 
Contact your local district attorney's office and ask for clarification.

Virginia is the same way. The wording is vague. Neither state law nor the language on the face of the concealed handgun permit specifies if the permit covers multiple concealed handguns or just one.

I sent an e-mail to my local DA's office a while back asking for clarification. One of the assistant DA's contacted the state police for clarification. The reply I received back stated that their interpretation (and the state police's) is that the law permits multiple concealed handguns. However, a different DA in a different locality might interpret the law differently. That's why we have lawyers.
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I'd not trust a DA with that

Here in Austin we have the famous anti-gun Ronnie Earl and Houstons DA has instructed cops publicly to arrest citizens legally carrying just to cost them time and money. Most DA's arent about justice really are they?
 
Houstons DA has instructed cops publicly to arrest citizens legally carrying just to cost them time and money

Yet another reason I'm glad I got the hell out of there.

SEriously? I've never heard that!?! How does he still have a job? that's the most unconstitutional thing I've ever heard of!!
 
1- You think this country still has a Constitution honored by the Government? ;)
2- This is a nice account, Houston city buildings and government are very anti-gun. This was one of the main reasons the wording was changed. There were court battles over public transit etc.

http://movies.dallasobserver.com/2007-10-25/news/have-gun-will-travel/

Texas Concealed Gun Laws Loosen
Have a gun? Feel free to travel.
By Glenna Whitley
Published: October 25, 2007


MARK GRAHAM
Craig Watkins
Subject(s): concealed handgun law An amendment to Texas' so-called "traveling rule" regarding concealed handguns went into effect September 1 with hardly anyone noticing, though it comes close to gutting the law requiring Texans to obtain a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

House Bill 1815, championed by both the National Rifle Association and the American Civil Liberties Union, clarified the 2005 statute allowing residents to carry a concealed weapon for protection while "traveling" in a private vehicle without a concealed weapon permit.

Most district attorneys and police agencies around the state have construed the definition of traveling narrowly.

According to a study by Scott Henson, with the Texas Criminal Justice Coalition, 13 county or district attorneys—including those in Houston and Fort Worth—instructed officers to quiz motorists found in possession of weapons about their travel plans or simply arrest them, seize the weapon and let the prosecutors sort it out. The questioning could get ridiculous: Visiting Grandma in another county was OK; getting groceries was not OK.

The burden fell on the motorist to prove he was "traveling" and thus allowed to carry a concealed gun without a permit.

The new law, the first bill Governor Rick Perry signed from the last session of the Legislature, now allows gun owners without a permit to carry a concealed gun both "to and from" their premises and their vehicles. Guns can be carried in cars with a few restrictions: They must be hidden from plain view, and the owner cannot be involved in criminal activity or a criminal street gang or otherwise prohibited by law from carrying a weapon.

In other words, if you're caught carrying a concealed pistol on the street and don't have a permit, tell the cop you're walking between your car and your home, either getting ready to travel somewhere or coming home. The burden now falls on the police officer to prove you are not really "traveling," which Dallas District Attorney Craig Watkins says is virtually impossible.

"If you read the new statute, it essentially does away with the concealed handgun law," Watkins says. As of September 1, his office no longer accepted most UCW (unlawfully carrying a weapon) charges that involved the "traveling" issue and dismissed pending cases.

"Actually we didn't really have a choice," Watkins says. "The law had changed, and some of the individuals could have fallen under the old statute, but it would be an unfair standard if we prosecuted them. And it's impossible now for us to prove those charges when we get them. Now it makes it the responsibility of the state to disprove that a person is on their way to or from their car, and that's pretty difficult to prove. It does a disservice to law enforcement. They have to prove this person was not on their way to somewhere. Why should they even bother [to arrest them]? I see it as a possibility for a lot of individuals with criminal intent to be carrying weapons."

The change has some police officers grumbling.

"It's insane," says one Dallas officer, who asked not to be named. "They basically destroyed the concealed gun law. We're letting drug dealers with Glocks under the seat go and say have a nice day. In the past we could have charged them at least with a weapons violation and confiscated the gun. Texas is wide open now. It's a huge story. This has just gone under everyone's radar."

Though felons are prohibited from carrying a concealed weapon, the officer says most police officers can't do thorough criminal background checks during traffic stops.

The officer says that Dallas patrol cops have received no information or training on the change in the law. A call to the Dallas police media office prompted puzzlement. "No one's told us," says Sergeant Gil Cerda. "We have yet to receive a legal briefing on that."

The Mesquite Police Department has informed its officers about the change, says a department spokesman, as has the Plano Police Department. Rick McDonald, public information officer for Plano, says that the change in the law may be more far-reaching than its supporters intended.

"It's a law for honest people and good citizens to stand their ground," McDonald says. "Now you can defend yourself in a carjacking. You don't have to retreat."

He says the Dallas Observer is the first media outlet to ask him about the change.

"Some of the smaller agencies may not know about this," McDonald says. Because Plano P.D. has an in-house lawyer who keeps officers up to speed on legal issues, most Plano officers have already had in-service training on this and other new laws, McDonald says. (The last session of the Texas Legislature was good for gun owners. The so-called "castle doctrine" was also modified and now gives citizens more leeway in the use of deadly force to protect one's home or place of business. It also limits the ability of criminals to sue for damages.)

"There's a lot more to this concealed weapon thing," McDonald says. "I work some off-duty at a church, and they have posted 'no gun' signs. A lot more employers need to be brought up to speed. I expect more employers and businesses to come out with rules" limiting possession of firearms on the premises.

Another unintended consequence, says McDonald, is the likelihood that more weapons, stuck in glove compartments or under seats, will be stolen from cars.

The ramifications will take a while to percolate through the system. But the bottom line is: "If you've got a car," says a Dallas officer, "you can carry a gun."

Of course, convincing a cop you were walking directly between your car and home when you're parked 20 miles from your house may be a stretch. Try telling them you're just extremely health-conscious
 
There are no laws in Texas that regulate the number of handguns you can carry or any that restrict the number. I always have one, often two, and have occaisionally carried three.

Anygunanywhere
 
When I lived in TX the deciding factor in how many guns I had on me was how much weight I could walk around with having a bad back.
 
Well, the police and DAs had every opportunity to enforce the first re-write of the traveling law, and refused. They're all just mad because the legislature re-wrote it again, and smacked their hands with it.
 
Houstons DA has instructed cops publicly to arrest citizens legally carrying just to cost them time and money

A Few of those DAs were responsible for the legislature having to work over the travel law twice. They had a policy to arrest no matter what the law said and the legislature specifically strengthened the original travelling presumption to deal with the jerks.
 
The DA's ordering cops to arrest people had to do with the Texas traveling law allowing a concealed weapon in the vehicle if you were "traveling" (no license required). It had nothing to do with people who had a CHL.

That law has been changed. I don't think you have to be "traveling" anymore. I am not completely certain of the details on the newest rewrite.

I believe there are no restrictions on the number of weapons you can carry concealed. I have found myself with up to 3 in my truck. I also sometimes haul guns to the my parents or relatives to show or use. It is nice to know the law technically covers them so I don't have to worry about it. It would be interesting to see the cops face when he asks about it if I get pulled over.
 
MechAg94 said:
That law has been changed. I don't think you have to be "traveling" anymore. I am not completely certain of the details on the newest rewrite.
They rewrote the law to point out "Travel" means "to go somewhere", no matter if it's just the corner store.
 
TSRA and Texas ACLU.

Even the TSRA Lobbiest, Linda Tripp mentioned that they had gotten good co-ordination and assistance from the Texas ACLU on this law. The ACLU as a rule NEVER does any pro-gun law or assistance, but they did in this case. I wish the ACLU would get passionate about the 2nd amendment.
 
I have heard the state ACLU organizations are often not quite as bad as the national group.
 
Ah okay, I guess it is not an offense to expose accidentaly in Texas. Texas has become pretty good for gun owners. The traveling law being redone was just great.
No license to carry loaded firearms in a vehicle. It is just slightly behind Alaska and Vermont now.

Though open carry would still be nice.
Especialy useful on a motorcycle if you have it on the bike or in a tank bag and wish to transfer it to your person conveniently.
Or even just running back to your car to put it inside because for some reason you can't take it in someplace. Maybe a government building at the last second, or don't you have those ridiculous alcohol establishment laws?

Those can get hard to keep up with. Some states someone can't take firearms in if they get over 50% of revenue from liqor. Some if they sell any. Others a person cannot have anything to drink while they have a firearm.
I guess a man out with his family having a drink with dinner just doesn't need to be able to defend himself if attacked or robbed on his way out.

That traveling law is still one of the best though. Handguns, rifles, shotguns, whatever. If you want to travel with it, you can.
 
I am not a lawyer and am not offering legal advice, but as I understand the legal situation in Texas with regards to the traveling thing:

Basically, it's illegal to go out in public with a handgun, concealed or unconcealed. A while back, they made an exception that said you could keep a handgun on or about your person in your vehicle if were "traveling," but didn't define traveling. This allowed prosecution because traveling was not defined.

In 2003 or 2004 (can't remember), the Texas legislature basically added to it that citizens in vehicles with handguns are presumed to be traveling. However, it still didn't actually define traveling, and people like Chuck Rosenthal, the Harris County DA, said that they would continue to arrest people and attempt to prove that they were not traveling, rather than presuming them to be traveling.

So more recently (taking effect Sep. 1, 2007), the law was rewritten such that the exception is now: "inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or under the person's control." So basically, they got rid of all the traveling BS, and just said that if you're in your car you can have a handgun.

The traveling law never had anything to do with shotguns or rifles, which have been and are perfectly legal to carry around with you in public (by Texas state law, although you may violate local laws or get arrested for "brandishing" or "disturbing the peace" or some such).

If I am off base on any of this, I hope someone will correct me, but I'm pretty sure it's all correct.
 
The traveling law never had anything to do with shotguns or rifles, which have been and are perfectly legal to carry around with you in public (by Texas state law, although you may violate local laws or get arrested for "brandishing" or "disturbing the peace" or some such).

If I am off base on any of this, I hope someone will correct me, but I'm pretty sure it's all correct.
No that sounds right, I did not mean to imply it did. Many people have kept rifles or shotguns in thier vehicles in Texas already.
What I was saying is with the "traveling" fix it is now legal to travel in the vehicle with all 3.
 
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