Baba Louie
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Jacobus Rex
Most Excellant Sir
Most Excellant Sir
We have no need to hasten a slide toward the abyss.
We have no need to hasten a slide toward the abyss.
It's illegal? I think that was his point. We are headed to where what you do now is illegal and it is getting harder and harder to stop them from chipping away at what we have left.
What words would you use to describe using guns to fight the government?The only people I find using the term(s) rebellion and revolution are the people who are against such ideas. They inject the idea into the dialog and then call it crazy. Ummmmmm......it's subtle, but its akin to the same tactics anti-gunners use.
Yeah, I was expecting that ad hominem argument to enter the debate, but not from you.I really think that those who look down their nose at those of us who talk of using our 2A rights, as given to us by the framers of the US Constitution, to stop the continuous barrage of assaults on our freedoms and rights, are really too afraid...
Those positions don't really matter.The answer is probably because the fire isn't hot enough yet, for some, for others it never will never be "hot" enough, as you have so eloquently put it.
No, I believe armed rebellion would be futile. I'm not being pedantic. There's a significant difference.but I believe you think resistance is futile
No one has said that. Just because we recognize the futility of armed rebellion doesn't mean we're expressing a preference.Several have said they would rather live under adverse conditions
There is no difference.I haven't advocated rebellion, I have advocated armed insurrection
It's also not "insurrection." It's assassination and kidnapping.Pure fantasy I know, but armed rebellion it aint.
No, your and my respective willingness to rise up don't matter to the questions at hand: A) would Americans rise up (insurrection ) and B) would they succeed.You're dead wrong...and they do matter.
Name one question that I failed to answer.And once again you failed to answer any of my real questions,
I didn't make a blanket statement. I pointed out two facts you needed to face about rebellion (er insurrection )I love how you just make a blanket statement like that
Field day? No. I'll just point out again that you're advocating assassination and kidnapping.I would see it like this, and I know you'll have a field day tearing this apart, but what the heck...
Actually, you attempted to insert that equivocation at post #82. You are being deliberately dishonest in saying that all along you were merely talking about small-scale clashes.while I have continued to talk about insurrection
The American people have survived many real trials and tribulations in our past. Our end will most likely come from our own self-destruction rather than an external enemy. I’m not trying to argue that there is never a time for hosting the black flag or that we should ignore all the actions of our government and follow like sheep to the slaughter. However, our vigilance lies at the ballot box not the bullet box. There are limits to what we should put up with but these limits are of an extreme nature and we have never even come close to crossing that line in this nation. I have often thought most Americans that develop such attitudes have never seen how much of the rest of the world really lives.