Threatening animal running loose? End the threat.

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This is the coolest story I've seen in a long time and the best part is it just barely hit the news and the investigation is already over. I love this partially because of what the guy did and how he did it, and partially because the county LEO understands the law. :thumbs up:


Salt Lake County Deputy Debbie Wilkinson said, "Any dogs running at large, if people feel threatened by any type of animal and it's running at large, they are justified in shooting it."
I was stunned to see this get admitted :eek:. That's right, ANY dogs running at large and perceived as threatening.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=5207584

Two pit bulls were shot and killed on a Magna street this afternoon....deputies say the man shot the dogs with a .40-caliber pistol. They've concluded their investigation, and he will not be charged.
That is EXACTLY how it should go. Investigation over within a couple of hours and no charges.
 
Took out 4 this year for that exact reason.
-Out at my parents house working on theier addition this summer and a boxer comes up, starts growling and showign it's teeth, I ran it off first.. then it came back and stood their defian like at 20 yards showing his teeth. Dropped him dead on teh spot with my 30-30 (happened to be in my truck and I was standing right next to it when he came back.
-Squirrel hunting earlier this year onmy property, get back to my truck and am milling about and 3 dogs come around the truck, surprised to see me and we ended up in a brawl (.22 rifle 15' away). I got one that day, the rest scattered and got out of range quickly. Caught up to one last month when they were in my field, took him out with my AR at 80 yards with a 40 gr. Nosler right in the spine on his neck. The other I caught up to in my parents yard with my shotgun. With the nieghbor kids and my nieces and nephew and soon to be my little boy running around I ain't having a viscious dog nearby.

Told the game warden about it after teh fact and he asked "why'd it take you so long"
 
I can't help myself....


-- John


(PS: I'm the second one from the right...)



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Judging how the David Spade thread went I will say:

Dog lovers come in saying their animal would not hurt a fly,
Others saying if a dog charges them they will shoot it,
The odd self defense case involving a rare breed,
Personal Attack's galore,

And a lock with a witty statement by a mod.
 
Judging how the David Spade thread went I will say:

Dog lovers come in saying their animal would not hurt a fly,
Others saying if a dog charges them they will shoot it,
The odd self defense case involving a rare breed,
Personal Attack's galore,

And a lock with a witty statement by a mod.


Yep... it will probably lock.


You'll not find a person that loves his pups more than I do. I spent $3K on my youngest Jack Russell's medical bills last year.

But I love my pups enough to make sure that they don't get something happen to them. And I have no illusions: My pups BITE.

But they only bite stupid people...

For instance:

My preacher came by last week. I had the pups out pee'ing. I tell the preacher "Hold on, let me get Josie in before you get out of the truck. She can be nippy."

He responds "Oh... don't worry... she's a cute little girl" (reaches down to pet Josie)


SNAP!

"Hold on preacher... I'll get you a bandaid."

:banghead:


Some people are too kindhearted to be smart.


I'm not sure what the implications are for Josie after biting a man of God. Perhaps it balances out... she bit a real Son of a B___ last year. Maybe she's even.



-- John
 
I own one of the most vicious dogs in the world. I keep it away from all people, small children, adults, Democrats. I dont want it shot because its mere presence is enough to rile peoples anger. Yes, my chihuahua is a killer. ;)

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PS. She doesnt need the gun, its just for show.
 
ljnowell,

Cute little pup!

I got bit by a chihuahua a couple days ago. The girl that had it felt bad, but I was laughing. I told her that it was trying so hard. (this dialogue was going on as the pup was literally shaking my thumb in its mouth as if trying to tear it loose!)

If chihuahuas were the size of bobcats, we could never leave our houses again.



Here's the Jack Terrorist Twins:

(Josie is the one that is all teeth, and Hatie is the one on her back-- taken at my hunting camp)

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-- John
 
I think it was Paco Kelly that did an article or two about dispatching wild AND AGRESSIVE dogs. Could'nt find it on his levergun site, must've been on another forum.- MAC
 
I like all the posts but to keep the thread open please keep it about incidents you've had with dogs running loose in your neighborhood and/or property, and you with a gun (whether it was used or not).

With a human the proper way to stop a threat is to aim at center of gravity (I've also heard "two in chest one in the head), but has anything been written about the proper way to dispatch an attacking dog? Or does it really matter? Is one firing/aiming tactic better than others?
 
A dog that is 'nippy' is a dog that needs some training. There is no excuse for keeping a dog that bites unprovoked.

Oh, unless it only bites those stupid people who try to pet it. Give me a break.
 
A dog that is 'nippy' is a dog that needs some training. There is no excuse for keeping a dog that bites unprovoked.

Oh, unless it only bites those stupid people who try to pet it. Give me a break.


Actually, she's fine. I see no need for "training."

Let's see...

For 3 years, she has lived at my house-- in the woods. When she goes out, she is on my property IN the woods.

She is never unsupervised in public.

If you happen to come to my house and I have her out, I will tell you to let me put her up or she may bite you.

If you choose to ignore me, you very well may be bit.

It seems more of a case of PEOPLE needing more "training."



This pup went though a battel for her life last year with a rare blood disorder. She had to have two blood transfusions, a round of chemotheraphy (for the side effect of increased red blood cell production.) She now is on two pills a day to supress her immune system.

I have ZERO interest in "training" this dog. I have interest in keeping her happy and I enjoy that she adores me. She's been through enough.

So, I tell people to let me get my dog if she's out and they show up.

If they ignore that, well.. that IS stupidity.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

That enough of a break for ya?


-- John
 
My cousin had a Jack Russel...till it went bat poop crazy and trided to take my nephews hand off. I said, Heath, we have a problem, he said, yup. 5 minutes later we buried that dog.
 
There is no excuse for keeping a dog that bites unprovoked.

That's very true as a general rule, but one has to take into account where John lives and how he keeps and handles the dog. From what he says, I conclude that he has the risks well mitigated.

Where I live in suburbia, I wouldn't assume the risk of having a dog that would bite without provocation. I'm told that the county has a one-bite rule. One bite and you can keep the dog, one more and they take it and destroy it.

I had an uncle who raised cattle in rural Mississippi. He had a shepherd mix (working herder) who was prone to snap at strangers (only). That included me until I had fed the dog for a number of days.

Yeah, there were probably some risks, but there were some real benefits having a dog like that out there, twenty miles from the nearest town, in my view. I do remember my uncle having to take a belt to the dog once to correct behavior after some incident with a person. I would never do that to our small dog, but as I recall, that approach worked that time.
 
There's nothing I hate worse than seeing an animal suffer... I'm glad your baby is better now John.

Do you have small kids or grandkids? How does it do with them? That would be my only concern.
 
Does no one else find it odd that he shot the first one point blank between the eyes? The dogs must of not been that agressive if he could get that close.
 
That's very true as a general rule, but one has to take into account where John lives and how he keeps and handles the dog. From what he says, I conclude that he has the risks well mitigated.


Thanks Kleanbore. Yep... it's mitigated. By mitigated, it means that I can't take her into public. Sad, but true. I probably encouraged her attitude because for some reason she has a particular hatred of horses.

Have you ever seen a 13 pound terrier act as though it wants to attack a horse? Its hard to correct her when its so funny to watch. She entertains me.


hankdatank1362 wrote:

There's nothing I hate worse than seeing an animal suffer... I'm glad your baby is better now John.

Do you have small kids or grandkids? How does it do with them? That would be my only concern.

Thanks Hank! Yeah, she is better, but she's going to have to deal with this for the rest of her life... she has "Autoimmune Hemolytic Anemia" which means that her immune system is attacking her red blood cells and platelets. We have to keep her on immune system suppressents that are given to organ transplant patients. She will live a full and active life, and because of all the "babying" that I gave her through this ordeal, she has become spoiled and overly protective of me. She's in my lap as I type this.

Oddly enough, she LOVES children. Any child that has ever come to our house is instantly her best friend. My niece and nephews spend the night over often and she abandons me to sleep with them.

Her list of "hates" is as follows:

1.) Horses
2.) other dogs (except the ones she was raised with)
3.) Merecats (or any varmit on TV)
4.) Adult men (likes women)


Her aggressiveness really began after our home was broken into at the end of 2006. The two pups were there alone, and there is indication that the oldest Jack Russell was kicked and received bruised ribs. I don't know if Josie was hurt.

Since then, ANY male other than my father or my father-in-law are considered hostile by my pups. I really can't blame them.

Hatie is very wary of strange adult males as well.


-- John
 
Does no one else find it odd that he shot the first one point blank between the eyes? The dogs must of not been that agressive if he could get that close.
An aggressive dog might charge at you, thus ending up at point-blank.
 
Her aggressiveness really began after our home was broken into at the end of 2006. The two pups were there alone, and there is indication that the oldest Jack Russell was kicked and received bruised ribs. I don't know if Josie was hurt.

Since then, ANY male other than my father or my father-in-law are considered hostile by my pups. I really can't blame them.

Me neither. I hope some arrests were made, and the wastes-of-air were brought to justice.

Oddly enough, she LOVES children. Any child that has ever come to our house is instantly her best friend.

Awesome!
 
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